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What kind of ai are you talking about? The non deterministic black box LLMs we have now?

by droopyEyelids 2y ago

jonathanlb 2y ago
Of course not LLMs, but approaches using mixed integer programming, genetic algorithms, and/or simulated annealing.
- whatwhaaaaat 2y ago
  Are these new products from Rockwell automation?
- kristjansson 2y ago
  Oh, algorithms, they should have thought of those.
CamperBob2 2y ago
The kind that could land an atomic-powered vehicle on Mars, eight light-minutes from human contact? In 2012? It's utterly ridiculous to expect humans to do this job for much longer. It's what computers are for.
- justinspace 2y ago
  Gosh, you'd think someone would've thought of this already.
  - CamperBob2 2y ago
    That's not an answer (and neither are downvotes). Why are humans still doing tedious work that would be utterly trivial for computers?
- thowawatp302 2y ago
  Oh you mean the kind that has no conflicting traffic in 0.5 to 2.5 AU?
  - CamperBob2 2y ago
    Really? There were 3 aircraft involved. Game AI in the 1980s was good enough to handle the amount of "conflicting traffic" involved here. You're arguing in favor of automation, not against it. For that matter, next time you visit the Bay Area, drop by the CHM in Mountain View and take a look at what SAGE could already do in the 1960s.
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    - thowawatp302 2y ago
      Yeah no it wasn’t just three, actually listen to the ATC auto between PAT25 calls into the controller and the crash — not to mention it’s still far more than a single aircraft on a remote planet
rich_sasha 2y ago
> ATC please advise, I'm about crash > Thanks for reaching out! As you probably know, crashing an aeroplane is not generally recommended. There are many factors that may contribute to a crash, such as weather, technical malfunction or human error. Appropriate training, regular maintenance and flight planning are some of the best practices which help minimise the likelihood of a crash. I recommend revisiting these factors. Is there anything else I can help you with today?

What kind of ai are you talking about? The non deterministic black box LLMs we have now?

jonathanlb 2y ago

Of course not LLMs, but approaches using mixed integer programming, genetic algorithms, and/or simulated annealing.

whatwhaaaaat 2y ago
Are these new products from Rockwell automation?
kristjansson 2y ago
Oh, algorithms, they should have thought of those.

CamperBob2 2y ago

The kind that could land an atomic-powered vehicle on Mars, eight light-minutes from human contact? In 2012? It's utterly ridiculous to expect humans to do this job for much longer. It's what computers are for.

justinspace 2y ago
Gosh, you'd think someone would've thought of this already.
- CamperBob2 2y ago
  That's not an answer (and neither are downvotes). Why are humans still doing tedious work that would be utterly trivial for computers?
thowawatp302 2y ago
Oh you mean the kind that has no conflicting traffic in 0.5 to 2.5 AU?
- CamperBob2 2y ago
  Really? There were 3 aircraft involved. Game AI in the 1980s was good enough to handle the amount of "conflicting traffic" involved here. You're arguing in favor of automation, not against it. For that matter, next time you visit the Bay Area, drop by the CHM in Mountain View and take a look at what SAGE could already do in the 1960s.
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  - thowawatp302 2y ago
    Yeah no it wasn’t just three, actually listen to the ATC auto between PAT25 calls into the controller and the crash — not to mention it’s still far more than a single aircraft on a remote planet

rich_sasha 2y ago

> ATC please advise, I'm about crash > Thanks for reaching out! As you probably know, crashing an aeroplane is not generally recommended. There are many factors that may contribute to a crash, such as weather, technical malfunction or human error. Appropriate training, regular maintenance and flight planning are some of the best practices which help minimise the likelihood of a crash. I recommend revisiting these factors. Is there anything else I can help you with today?