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I'm sorry to have to say this, but this whole thread reeks of someone refusing to help themselves. Several people have given you legitimately helpful advice and

I'm sorry to have to say this, but this whole thread reeks of someone refusing to help themselves. Several people have given you legitimately helpful advice and you have just come back with excuses as to why it won't work for you. This includes: - Using a wireless power bank. Android phones will work with a completely dead/useless battery if they are plugged into a power bank. If your power bank doesn't work that way, then you need a new power bank. - Using a different device. Of course your important files are on this phone. Do you think this phone will last forever? Backup those files to the cloud so you can access them from any device. You get free cloud storage with your Google account. Instead of blaming all your problems on an external entity like Google, if you take accountability for solving your problem, you will find it is not nearly so intractable. Others here can offer advice, but it is ultimately up to you to decide on a course of action and pursue it. I wish you the best of luck.

computehyper 2y ago
Hi, I'm not sure if you've saw it but not only is the battery is close to dead but the charging is super slow and it struggles to work plugged in. So I cannot use it well. The only option will to get a new phone, but it's been taking a toll on me. I am not looking to be a charity case. I'm just flustered at what Google did. Something that never happened in history, without warning, ending my phone.
- rusty_venture 2y ago
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  - computehyper 2y ago
    This isn't about an old device, it's just a few years old (2020, on Android 13). I understand that things break, but this is not about that. It's how Google lied to users about the update, then the update wrecking their phones to a point where it doesn't work. If my phone were to have naturally been destroyed then I get it, I have to move on. I'm sure a lot of people have Pixels here, if all of a sudden it is forced to update, and the phone becomes unusable, would you not be angry? What if Microsoft forcefully updated and made all processors around 2018 bricked? I've browsed here so much and everyone loves to use old and cheap CPUs for their crafts which are beautiful here. I'm sure many people use old phones for many reasons as well, such as mobile servers, gadgets, etc. The Pixel 4a was a budget phone and perfect for those who want a phone with a headphone jack and that just works. Pixel 4a was also one of the phones used for many Android projects. At this point I just want to tell people on here what Google did and let people know that this can happen to your phone at any time. Hopefully you are all prepared as Pixel 5/6 have been having battery issues as well and a forced update might be coming for that. I hope everyone is prepared.
    - rusty_venture 2y ago
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      - Kelvin506 2y ago
        Your reply is completely uncalled for. I hope you're able to get professional help for whatever it is in your life that drove you to be this callous toward someone.
        rusty_venture 2y ago
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        Kelvin506 2y ago
        It can be really hard to understand why people do what they do. But I do know from personal experience that shelter insecurity is one of those pervasive stressors that makes everything difficult. Maybe their phone getting screwed up was the proverbial last straw. Now, instead of a calm, considered approach, they're fighting exhaustion and panic while trying to problem solve. But no matter what their circumstances, being vile toward them is unwarranted.
      - miunau 2y ago
        Hey dude. This is probably the most vile thing I've read in a while. You should be ashamed of yourself.
        rusty_venture 2y ago
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        fatata123 2y ago
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  - nixosbestos 2y ago
    I've been on this site for like 15 years and I've never felt so compelled to tell someone they are a useless fucking asshole of a prick besides you. Your projection reeks. I bet the last shit I took is happier than you are as a person. Get some fucking help.
RivieraKid 2y ago
> Instead of blaming all your problems on an external entity like Google But it's not his fault. I can easily empathize with how he's feeling. Power bank probably doesn't work well because the update limits charging speed. What if he doesn't have money for buying a new phone? Also, transferring files via cloud storage can be a non-trivial process, especially for a non-technical person.
- rusty_venture 2y ago
  This person is on HackerNews, implying at least enough technical expertise to use a website. Google Drive is a website. Other people have offered this person alternative devices free of charge. Yet they are so fixated on a specific outcome (Google just fixing this for them) that they can't see another solution when it's offered up on a plate. They are also neglecting to think beyond the immediate problem: say they get the firmware rolled back somehow - what happens when the device stops charging/is stolen/is dropped and all their files are still on it? Have you never know anyone like this before? Someone who needs all their problems solved for them because they refuse to take responsibility for the situations they have created for themselves through action or inaction?
m463 2y ago
lol, I imagine everyone in a relationship that posts here might have run into the "listen vs problem solve" scenario... I definitely have tried to problem solve and things would escalate because the other person wanted me to listen. But yeah, this is HN :)
- meowfly 2y ago
  I'm aware of the "listen" versus "problem solving" scenario. I refuse to accept the framing. For some reason people have bought in to the idea that you can unload your emotions on someone and also create expectations on how they should respond. If someone approaches you with a problem, they should expect you'll help them find a solution.
scarface_74 2y ago
This is all Google’s fault though. They crippled a perfectly working device. An external battery pack is a bad band aid. Google has always sucked at customer service.
- computehyper 2y ago
  And now look at this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42873635 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42873635 It gets worse.

computehyper 2y ago

Hi, I'm not sure if you've saw it but not only is the battery is close to dead but the charging is super slow and it struggles to work plugged in. So I cannot use it well. The only option will to get a new phone, but it's been taking a toll on me. I am not looking to be a charity case. I'm just flustered at what Google did. Something that never happened in history, without warning, ending my phone.

rusty_venture 2y ago
[flagged]
- computehyper 2y ago
  This isn't about an old device, it's just a few years old (2020, on Android 13). I understand that things break, but this is not about that. It's how Google lied to users about the update, then the update wrecking their phones to a point where it doesn't work. If my phone were to have naturally been destroyed then I get it, I have to move on. I'm sure a lot of people have Pixels here, if all of a sudden it is forced to update, and the phone becomes unusable, would you not be angry? What if Microsoft forcefully updated and made all processors around 2018 bricked? I've browsed here so much and everyone loves to use old and cheap CPUs for their crafts which are beautiful here. I'm sure many people use old phones for many reasons as well, such as mobile servers, gadgets, etc. The Pixel 4a was a budget phone and perfect for those who want a phone with a headphone jack and that just works. Pixel 4a was also one of the phones used for many Android projects. At this point I just want to tell people on here what Google did and let people know that this can happen to your phone at any time. Hopefully you are all prepared as Pixel 5/6 have been having battery issues as well and a forced update might be coming for that. I hope everyone is prepared.
  - rusty_venture 2y ago
    [flagged]
    - Kelvin506 2y ago
      Your reply is completely uncalled for. I hope you're able to get professional help for whatever it is in your life that drove you to be this callous toward someone.
      - rusty_venture 2y ago
        [flagged]
        Kelvin506 2y ago
        It can be really hard to understand why people do what they do. But I do know from personal experience that shelter insecurity is one of those pervasive stressors that makes everything difficult. Maybe their phone getting screwed up was the proverbial last straw. Now, instead of a calm, considered approach, they're fighting exhaustion and panic while trying to problem solve. But no matter what their circumstances, being vile toward them is unwarranted.
    - miunau 2y ago
      Hey dude. This is probably the most vile thing I've read in a while. You should be ashamed of yourself.
      - rusty_venture 2y ago
        [flagged]
        fatata123 2y ago
        [dead]
- nixosbestos 2y ago
  I've been on this site for like 15 years and I've never felt so compelled to tell someone they are a useless fucking asshole of a prick besides you. Your projection reeks. I bet the last shit I took is happier than you are as a person. Get some fucking help.

RivieraKid 2y ago

> Instead of blaming all your problems on an external entity like Google But it's not his fault. I can easily empathize with how he's feeling. Power bank probably doesn't work well because the update limits charging speed. What if he doesn't have money for buying a new phone? Also, transferring files via cloud storage can be a non-trivial process, especially for a non-technical person.

rusty_venture 2y ago
This person is on HackerNews, implying at least enough technical expertise to use a website. Google Drive is a website. Other people have offered this person alternative devices free of charge. Yet they are so fixated on a specific outcome (Google just fixing this for them) that they can't see another solution when it's offered up on a plate. They are also neglecting to think beyond the immediate problem: say they get the firmware rolled back somehow - what happens when the device stops charging/is stolen/is dropped and all their files are still on it? Have you never know anyone like this before? Someone who needs all their problems solved for them because they refuse to take responsibility for the situations they have created for themselves through action or inaction?

m463 2y ago

lol, I imagine everyone in a relationship that posts here might have run into the "listen vs problem solve" scenario... I definitely have tried to problem solve and things would escalate because the other person wanted me to listen. But yeah, this is HN :)

meowfly 2y ago
I'm aware of the "listen" versus "problem solving" scenario. I refuse to accept the framing. For some reason people have bought in to the idea that you can unload your emotions on someone and also create expectations on how they should respond. If someone approaches you with a problem, they should expect you'll help them find a solution.

scarface_74 2y ago

This is all Google’s fault though. They crippled a perfectly working device. An external battery pack is a bad band aid. Google has always sucked at customer service.

computehyper 2y ago
And now look at this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42873635 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42873635 It gets worse.