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Apple also has an advertising company. And they track you, but they get money by selling you stuff mostly. I’m deep into the Apple ecosystem system and they don

Apple also has an advertising company. And they track you, but they get money by selling you stuff mostly. I’m deep into the Apple ecosystem system and they don’t force updates, try to upsell me every time updates are installed. I have no ads on the apps I use. They are quite happy for you to fork over gobs of money and call it a day. Googles primary source of income is ads. All this stuff they do is the primary way they get money. People need to stop being surprised this is where they ended up.

kllrnohj 2y ago
> I’m deep into the Apple ecosystem system and they don’t force updates My iPad is pretty naggy to install updates, moreso than my Pixel phone even. iOS doesn't automatically update like Android does, but if anything that seems less like it's because Apple disagrees with that and more because their update system is so shit they can't get away with it. It's inexcusably slow to apply updates. > try to upsell me every time updates are installed They are the only ones to have lost a lawsuit for doing literally this. Batterygate wasn't that long ago, surely you didn't forget about it already? Heck class actions about it are still happening in various countries!
- scarface_74 2y ago
  So if they hadn’t push the update to throttle your phone when the battery could no longer run at full speed would that have been better?
  - ycombinatrix 2y ago
    "Your phone battery has degraded and cannot run the CPU at full speed. Please replace the battery." this dead simple warning message + a switch to toggle CPU throttling is all anyone ever wanted. However that would require them to respect their users' intelligence - not Apple's style.
ycombinatrix 2y ago
Yea, Apple's advertising business is a non-profit public good venture right? I do my part to support Chinese factory workers by purchasing the latest iPhone™

kllrnohj 2y ago

> I’m deep into the Apple ecosystem system and they don’t force updates My iPad is pretty naggy to install updates, moreso than my Pixel phone even. iOS doesn't automatically update like Android does, but if anything that seems less like it's because Apple disagrees with that and more because their update system is so shit they can't get away with it. It's inexcusably slow to apply updates. > try to upsell me every time updates are installed They are the only ones to have lost a lawsuit for doing literally this. Batterygate wasn't that long ago, surely you didn't forget about it already? Heck class actions about it are still happening in various countries!

scarface_74 2y ago
So if they hadn’t push the update to throttle your phone when the battery could no longer run at full speed would that have been better?
- ycombinatrix 2y ago
  "Your phone battery has degraded and cannot run the CPU at full speed. Please replace the battery." this dead simple warning message + a switch to toggle CPU throttling is all anyone ever wanted. However that would require them to respect their users' intelligence - not Apple's style.

ycombinatrix 2y ago

Yea, Apple's advertising business is a non-profit public good venture right? I do my part to support Chinese factory workers by purchasing the latest iPhone™