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The reason why Craigslist is valuable is because of it's large network. It is obvious that smaller sites like PadMapper want to slowly try and chip away at Crai

The reason why Craigslist is valuable is because of it's large network. It is obvious that smaller sites like PadMapper want to slowly try and chip away at Craiglist content (see PadLister) after they hopefully gain enough traction to supplant them. Padmapper / Padlister are fine to start their own sites and have users come and post their listings there, but not to copy content from Craigslist after they specifically asked them to stop.

stcredzero 14y ago
> It is obvious that smaller sites like PadMapper want to slowly try and chip away at Craiglist content It's not Craigslist's content. It's our content, the general public's. Craigslist is just a caretaker. Right now, it's a caretaker acting in its own interests against the public's.
- Kadrith 14y ago
  It also does not mean that CL has any obligation to provide that data to another for free. If you want the data in multiple locations, post it to those other locations.
  - stcredzero 14y ago
    The purpose of CL is to provide data for free. Why should they care how that data is packaged, so long as this packaging is not abusive, but actually beneficial? The real reason: Craigslist wants to hold onto their monopoly position.
- ceejayoz 14y ago
  The general public gave it to Craigslist under readily available terms. The general public is free to also give it to your service, but that's up to them.
  - stcredzero 14y ago
    This is disingenuous. Craigslist isn't doing the public's will. It's just taking advantage of public apathy. (Much like Microsoft did with the browser wars.)
- res0nat0r 14y ago
  Yes you did post some facts about your listing to CL, it is also well within Craigslists right to allow others to copy it or not. Just because you supplied the data to CL doesn't mean you can dictate to them how they should run their business.
  - stcredzero 14y ago
    A copyright clause designed to allow Craigslist to stop abuse shouldn't be used to squash competitors. That's not dictating "how they should run their business." That's telling them to stop being selfish.
    - res0nat0r 14y ago
      How are they trying to squash competition? Padmapper isn't free to have users submit their listings to their own website?
      - stcredzero 14y ago
        > How are they trying to squash competition? Again, disingenuous. CL has the network effect. That's like Microsoft saying, Users are free to install their own browsers. Their current actions are only to preserve that, not to squash abuses. (Which is what they usually do with the power of their TOU.)
        res0nat0r 14y ago
        So Apple should stop selling iPhones because it has a dominant position in the marketplace because it is the device most preferred by buyers?
        stcredzero 14y ago
        Apple's network effect or market position clearly doesn't make other phones and devices a non-starter. Craiglist's network effect and market position clearly makes other housing listing sites a non-starter. Big difference.

stcredzero 14y ago

> It is obvious that smaller sites like PadMapper want to slowly try and chip away at Craiglist content It's not Craigslist's content. It's our content, the general public's. Craigslist is just a caretaker. Right now, it's a caretaker acting in its own interests against the public's.

Kadrith 14y ago
It also does not mean that CL has any obligation to provide that data to another for free. If you want the data in multiple locations, post it to those other locations.
- stcredzero 14y ago
  The purpose of CL is to provide data for free. Why should they care how that data is packaged, so long as this packaging is not abusive, but actually beneficial? The real reason: Craigslist wants to hold onto their monopoly position.
ceejayoz 14y ago
The general public gave it to Craigslist under readily available terms. The general public is free to also give it to your service, but that's up to them.
- stcredzero 14y ago
  This is disingenuous. Craigslist isn't doing the public's will. It's just taking advantage of public apathy. (Much like Microsoft did with the browser wars.)
res0nat0r 14y ago
Yes you did post some facts about your listing to CL, it is also well within Craigslists right to allow others to copy it or not. Just because you supplied the data to CL doesn't mean you can dictate to them how they should run their business.
- stcredzero 14y ago
  A copyright clause designed to allow Craigslist to stop abuse shouldn't be used to squash competitors. That's not dictating "how they should run their business." That's telling them to stop being selfish.
  - res0nat0r 14y ago
    How are they trying to squash competition? Padmapper isn't free to have users submit their listings to their own website?
    - stcredzero 14y ago
      > How are they trying to squash competition? Again, disingenuous. CL has the network effect. That's like Microsoft saying, Users are free to install their own browsers. Their current actions are only to preserve that, not to squash abuses. (Which is what they usually do with the power of their TOU.)
      - res0nat0r 14y ago
        So Apple should stop selling iPhones because it has a dominant position in the marketplace because it is the device most preferred by buyers?
        stcredzero 14y ago
        Apple's network effect or market position clearly doesn't make other phones and devices a non-starter. Craiglist's network effect and market position clearly makes other housing listing sites a non-starter. Big difference.