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But none of those claims contradict the point that was made. It's not really clear what you're disputing. AWS exists because Amazon had already developed the k

But none of those claims contradict the point that was made. It's not really clear what you're disputing. AWS exists because Amazon had already developed the know-how and expertise in how to deliver computing infrastructure as a service and saw that offering this as a service to third-parties would be profitable. The only myth is that Amazon wanted to sell off excess computing.

scarface_74 2y ago
There is a huge difference between “we have the know how to create AWS” and “we used spare capacity to sell to customers” or “we took code we used from Amazon Retail and created AWS”. Most people think the former and even now people seem to think that there is any similarity between how Amazon Retail (CDO) and how AWS runs. Again with the caveat that some of Amazon Retail’s workloads have been migrated to AWS or were born on AWS.
- Maxatar 2y ago
  Exactly, there is a huge difference, that's the point! You seem to think the original claim is that someone took code from CDO and built AWS off of it, and no one said that. The simple claim which is reinforced in the very Quora link you provided is that Amazon had developed expertise in delivering computing infrastructure internally, and decided it would be profitable to offer this service externally. Your claim that most people have a very specific belief about an implementation detail regarding whether literal code was reused or transferred is almost certainly false. The belief is that a company that developed expertise in an area that proved to be invaluable internally managed to leverage that expertise into a new product line that they could sell to other people, and nothing you have provided contradicts that.
  - scarface_74 2y ago
    This is the original message “GCP and AWS came out of product focused companies that effectively converted to providing the services they used internally.” They at most used thier know how. You and I are in agreement. But that’s not what is implied by the parent.
    - ghaff 2y ago
      AWS was obviously not going into building datacenters and taking a modern service oriented architecture approach cold. But, as you say, the pervasive myth is that AWS started out by using excess retail computing capacity and presumably the same architecture which, by all accounts, is simply untrue. And GCP more or less started out as a classic PaaS. Azure really had more of an on-prem focus at first.

scarface_74 2y ago

There is a huge difference between “we have the know how to create AWS” and “we used spare capacity to sell to customers” or “we took code we used from Amazon Retail and created AWS”. Most people think the former and even now people seem to think that there is any similarity between how Amazon Retail (CDO) and how AWS runs. Again with the caveat that some of Amazon Retail’s workloads have been migrated to AWS or were born on AWS.

Maxatar 2y ago
Exactly, there is a huge difference, that's the point! You seem to think the original claim is that someone took code from CDO and built AWS off of it, and no one said that. The simple claim which is reinforced in the very Quora link you provided is that Amazon had developed expertise in delivering computing infrastructure internally, and decided it would be profitable to offer this service externally. Your claim that most people have a very specific belief about an implementation detail regarding whether literal code was reused or transferred is almost certainly false. The belief is that a company that developed expertise in an area that proved to be invaluable internally managed to leverage that expertise into a new product line that they could sell to other people, and nothing you have provided contradicts that.
- scarface_74 2y ago
  This is the original message “GCP and AWS came out of product focused companies that effectively converted to providing the services they used internally.” They at most used thier know how. You and I are in agreement. But that’s not what is implied by the parent.
  - ghaff 2y ago
    AWS was obviously not going into building datacenters and taking a modern service oriented architecture approach cold. But, as you say, the pervasive myth is that AWS started out by using excess retail computing capacity and presumably the same architecture which, by all accounts, is simply untrue. And GCP more or less started out as a classic PaaS. Azure really had more of an on-prem focus at first.