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They were probably pretty clear about the fact that this guy is NOT supposed to discuss what happens in a government poly especially on a public forum. There a
by uuilly 18y ago
They were probably pretty clear about the fact that this guy is NOT supposed to discuss what happens in a government poly especially on a public forum. There are reasons beyond his career to want to keep that information close. People are constantly trying to beat our system and the more they know about it, the easier it is. If this guy is serious about pursuing a career in the intel world he should respect the rules they lay down. They are bureaucratic and often silly, but they have reasons for them beyond what a young hacker can understand. This guy has shown that he is not responsible or mature enough to handle classified material.
- uuilly 18y agoOk, let's put it this way, would you want the playbook for your favorite football team to be public? You may be a fan, and you may be paying for the team but you'll loose if their secrets become public. The same goes for the intel world. Part of being on that team is keeping the playbook to yourself.
- ja2ke 18y agoI was vaguely intrigued by the notion of the OP revealing some unknown insight on polygraphs or whatever, as well... But after reading it, the fact that the story could have come beat for beat out of a John Grisham novel made me dismiss that fairly quickly.
- elai 18y ago"our system"
- sgsglsl 18y agoYes, your system. Canadian intelligence is intimately intertwined with American. In fact, it's probably dependent on it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadpartite_Pact http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadpartite_Pact http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UKUSA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UKUSA
- anonymous-c 18y agoPolygraph tests don't depend on secrecy. I, and millions of other people, have received one and it's fairly well documented. From what I can tell, the way that they polygraph criminals and people in intelligence is roughly the same. It's used as more of a method to trick you into telling the truth than it is to detect lies. I don't think it's very easy to beat unless you teach yourself how to regulate your heartbeat.
- rjprins 18y agoIt is in fact very easy to beat. You don't have to control your hartbeat, you have to overreact to control questions (performing heavy mental calculations combined with holding your breath 2 seconds will do the trick!), so your (normal) response to the important questions will be less severe in comparison. If your response to control question is stronger than your response to relevant questions, you pass the test. It that simple.
- anonymous-c 18y agoIt's really not as simple as these anti-polygraph sites would have you believe. There's a sensor that's strapped around your chest. If your breathing is irregular, they'll detect it. Also, doing anything mentally draining while someone is asking you a question and answering it correctly is not easy. At some point, you're going to have to focus on the question. You'd have to be able to consistently deceive them for every question and keep at it for several hours. They don't necessarily tell you which questions are the control and they'll slip in questions that you'll have to think about and answer honestly. They'll catch your baseline with those. At times, they'll intentionally try to agitate you by accusing you of lying. It's difficult to keep cool and it will throw you off balance. You'll forget that you were trying to trick them. The government knows about all of these stupid little tricks. People used to put pins in their shoe or contract their anal sphincter muscle to generate a response. Examiners now have sensors under your feet and ass. These tests aren't designed to simply detect that you're lying. They want to push your buttons and make you crack.
- eru 18y ago
- mjgoins 18y agoYou just made me so glad that this guy posted what he did. Thanks for making an unpleasant read seem a bit more worthwhile.