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Yes, I have played a lot of it. And have since 2016.

ygjb 2y ago
The poster asked if you played the game, and acknowledged that you don't have to like it - that's not a fallacy, it's a clarifying question. The game has had clearly observable and measurable improvements, in terms of features, like multi-player, but also in terms of overall content, game and storyline components, and substantial new and revised game mechanics. It is abundantly clear from player feedback that your opinion is in the minority. Steam reviews - Recent Reviews: Very Positive (1,837) All Reviews: Very Positive (256,838)
- teddyh 2y ago
  The game certainly has had changes and additions. Whether those constitute improvements is a matter of opinion.
- remram 2y ago
  The implication is clear even if formulated as a question. Let's not pretend here. Asking people if they've played the game (or "read the article") is also directly against the HN guidelines.
- jrootabega 2y ago
  It's fine to be in the minority; doesn't make you wrong. Steam reviews are far from a good indicator of actual quality.
mrmuagi 2y ago
Besides the multiplayer update, what have you found fun about the game to invest all those hours? Personally think the gameplay loop is shallow, modding helped me find more depth.
- jrootabega 2y ago
  I wouldn't say that it was a good investment, or even too much of an investment at all. A lot of it was procrastination, escapism, self-sabotage, etc. There were times when I could overlay a sort of canon to my character's activities that was pleasurable to think about. I spent a lot of time wanting the game to be good, but some glitch or design decision would always get in the way. But I'd say one of the best experiences I had in the game was becoming self-reliant at the start of a new save. Struggling not to die evolves into having enough resources to survive indefinitely by manual resource harvesting, which evolves into setting up crude crafting pipelines, which then evolves into advanced harvesting and manufacturing, enabling easy interstellar travel and self-sufficient freighter bases. But that can only happen once per save. And it's only really satisfying on survival or permadeath. The other modes are essentially just a no-risk sandbox.
drakythe 2y ago
My apologies. I'll edit out the leading question. It just seems outrageous to me to say "the game hasn't been improved except it added multiplayer" when multiple pieces of the engine have been re-written. New game play loops added, bugs squashed, updated content, and entirely new ways of generating planets, flora, and fauna have been added. I feel it is akin to saying FPS games haven't improved since DOOM (95), or simulation games haven't improved since Deus Ex. Are both excellent examples of their genre? Yes, absolutely. Are they still some of the most fun you can have in a game? Yes. Holy crap yes. But to ignore improvements made in the last 3 decades of game development and storytelling just because another game hasn't improved on every single aspect aspect of them is a wild perspective. Denying the improvements Hello Games has made over the last 9 years feels as if it can only come from a perspective of "I don't like it, therefore it is bad". Which to be clear, again, it is fine if you don't like a game. I don't like WoW, haven't since before Cataclysm. I don't like Diablo III in the same way I liked D2 (and as a result haven't even played D4). But those are personal preferences to me, and both games contain numerous improvements over their predecessors. Just not my bag.
- ziddoap 2y ago
  Despite really disliking the game, but also still playing it enough to apparently notice "many, many glitches" in recent updates, it's pretty obvious that they either have some bone to pick with No Man's Sky or just enjoy being a bit contrarian. Or maybe they're having a bad day. In any case, their comments don't seem to be in good faith. I never understood why people will keep playing games they don't like. It doesn't make any sense to me. If I don't like a game, I play something else.
  - jrootabega 2y ago
    I should not have spent the time that I did with the game. I regret a lot of it. At this point I think I'm fully done with it, although I might pick it back up on PC at some point in order to work on mods (which I think might address some of the big gaps in the game).
- jrootabega 2y ago
  They've certainly done a good number of things, and it probably wasn't easy to do, but my observation is just that almost none of those things really contribute to the heart of the game, work together in a meaningful way, or got executed without a lot of rough edges and bugs which never have been/never will be addressed. I believe it happened this way because when they were in danger of self-destructing after the terrible launch, they knew they could no longer afford to risk continuing to try for the vision they had and sold. They had to pivot to a adding shallow crowd-pleasing fluff, and the more the better. And it was a good business decision! Now people go gaga over the fact that you can summon a multiplayer social hub from your menu and do fortnite emotes with strangers. Let me try to flip this and compliment NMS for what I think it is. It's a good light-hearted space-themed VR chat with some gamelike elements. ----------------------- Also, no worries about the earlier question. I wasn't offended or upset, but I think it was just a good opportunity to point out that the culture about discussing this game now has that kind of thing baked into it.

ygjb 2y ago

The poster asked if you played the game, and acknowledged that you don't have to like it - that's not a fallacy, it's a clarifying question. The game has had clearly observable and measurable improvements, in terms of features, like multi-player, but also in terms of overall content, game and storyline components, and substantial new and revised game mechanics. It is abundantly clear from player feedback that your opinion is in the minority. Steam reviews - Recent Reviews: Very Positive (1,837) All Reviews: Very Positive (256,838)

teddyh 2y ago
The game certainly has had changes and additions. Whether those constitute improvements is a matter of opinion.
remram 2y ago
The implication is clear even if formulated as a question. Let's not pretend here. Asking people if they've played the game (or "read the article") is also directly against the HN guidelines.
jrootabega 2y ago
It's fine to be in the minority; doesn't make you wrong. Steam reviews are far from a good indicator of actual quality.

mrmuagi 2y ago

Besides the multiplayer update, what have you found fun about the game to invest all those hours? Personally think the gameplay loop is shallow, modding helped me find more depth.

jrootabega 2y ago
I wouldn't say that it was a good investment, or even too much of an investment at all. A lot of it was procrastination, escapism, self-sabotage, etc. There were times when I could overlay a sort of canon to my character's activities that was pleasurable to think about. I spent a lot of time wanting the game to be good, but some glitch or design decision would always get in the way. But I'd say one of the best experiences I had in the game was becoming self-reliant at the start of a new save. Struggling not to die evolves into having enough resources to survive indefinitely by manual resource harvesting, which evolves into setting up crude crafting pipelines, which then evolves into advanced harvesting and manufacturing, enabling easy interstellar travel and self-sufficient freighter bases. But that can only happen once per save. And it's only really satisfying on survival or permadeath. The other modes are essentially just a no-risk sandbox.

drakythe 2y ago

My apologies. I'll edit out the leading question. It just seems outrageous to me to say "the game hasn't been improved except it added multiplayer" when multiple pieces of the engine have been re-written. New game play loops added, bugs squashed, updated content, and entirely new ways of generating planets, flora, and fauna have been added. I feel it is akin to saying FPS games haven't improved since DOOM (95), or simulation games haven't improved since Deus Ex. Are both excellent examples of their genre? Yes, absolutely. Are they still some of the most fun you can have in a game? Yes. Holy crap yes. But to ignore improvements made in the last 3 decades of game development and storytelling just because another game hasn't improved on every single aspect aspect of them is a wild perspective. Denying the improvements Hello Games has made over the last 9 years feels as if it can only come from a perspective of "I don't like it, therefore it is bad". Which to be clear, again, it is fine if you don't like a game. I don't like WoW, haven't since before Cataclysm. I don't like Diablo III in the same way I liked D2 (and as a result haven't even played D4). But those are personal preferences to me, and both games contain numerous improvements over their predecessors. Just not my bag.

ziddoap 2y ago
Despite really disliking the game, but also still playing it enough to apparently notice "many, many glitches" in recent updates, it's pretty obvious that they either have some bone to pick with No Man's Sky or just enjoy being a bit contrarian. Or maybe they're having a bad day. In any case, their comments don't seem to be in good faith. I never understood why people will keep playing games they don't like. It doesn't make any sense to me. If I don't like a game, I play something else.
- jrootabega 2y ago
  I should not have spent the time that I did with the game. I regret a lot of it. At this point I think I'm fully done with it, although I might pick it back up on PC at some point in order to work on mods (which I think might address some of the big gaps in the game).
jrootabega 2y ago
They've certainly done a good number of things, and it probably wasn't easy to do, but my observation is just that almost none of those things really contribute to the heart of the game, work together in a meaningful way, or got executed without a lot of rough edges and bugs which never have been/never will be addressed. I believe it happened this way because when they were in danger of self-destructing after the terrible launch, they knew they could no longer afford to risk continuing to try for the vision they had and sold. They had to pivot to a adding shallow crowd-pleasing fluff, and the more the better. And it was a good business decision! Now people go gaga over the fact that you can summon a multiplayer social hub from your menu and do fortnite emotes with strangers. Let me try to flip this and compliment NMS for what I think it is. It's a good light-hearted space-themed VR chat with some gamelike elements. ----------------------- Also, no worries about the earlier question. I wasn't offended or upset, but I think it was just a good opportunity to point out that the culture about discussing this game now has that kind of thing baked into it.