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I'm willing to bet ''ban DeepSeek'' voices will start soon. Why compete, when you can just ban?
by buyucu 2y ago
I'm willing to bet ''ban DeepSeek'' voices will start soon. Why compete, when you can just ban?
- cmiles74 2y agoThey've started already, I've seen posts on LinkedIn implying or outright stating that DeepSeek is a national security risk (IMHO, LinkedIn being the social media outlet most corporate-sycophantic). I went ahead and just picked this one at random from my feed. https://www.linkedin.com/posts/kevinkeller_deepseek-privacy-security-activity-7289673454142771200-G0MU?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop https://www.linkedin.com/posts/kevinkeller_deepseek-privacy-...
- flybarrel 2y agoOh this post...calling out DeepSeek's T&C but not comparing it with OpenAI's is really disingenuous IMO.
- walthamstow 2y agoSeen the same with censorship. Deepseek is a CCP pamphlet apparently, but rarely is it compared to OpenAI in the same breath.
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- ijidak 2y agoNBC Nightly News, on Monday, had an expert -- at 8:05 in the video -- who claimed there might be national security risks to Deepseek. I'm not going to take a side on whether there is or not. But, it does sound reminiscent of the reasons used to ban Tik-tok. https://youtu.be/uE6F6eTyAVc?si=BLZo3FMVRvjEy6Xa https://youtu.be/uE6F6eTyAVc?si=BLZo3FMVRvjEy6Xa
- csomar 2y agoAt least this guy can differentiate between running your own model and using the web/mobile app where DeepSeek process your data. I've watched a TV show yesterday (I think it was France24) where the "experts" can't really tell the difference or are not aware of it. Shut down the TV and went to sleep.
- Freedom2 2y agoCompeting is hard and expensive, whereas banning is for sure the faster way to make stock values go up and exec's total package as a result.
- cscurmudgeon 2y agoBanning worked for China all these decades.
- caseyy 2y agoIt’s simply because banning removes a market force in the US that’d drive technological advancement. This is already evident with CNSA/NASA, Huawei/Android, TikTok/Western social media. The Western tech gets mothballed because we stick our heads in the sand and pretend we are undisputed leaders of the world in tech, whereas it is slowly becoming disputable.
- cscurmudgeon 2y agoThe US won't ban DeepSeek from US, but more likely we will ban DeepSeek (and other Chinese companies) from accessing US frontier models. > Western tech gets mothballed because we stick our heads in the sand and pretend we are undisputed leaders of the world in tech, whereas it is slowly becoming disputable. I am hearing Chinese tech is now the best and they achieved it with banning things left and right.
- Kj8nM2pL 2y agoThe Chinese companies are almost always at each other's throat instead of colluding with each other. It's all about competition.
- namuol 2y agoAlready happening within tech company policy. Mostly as a security concern. Local or controlled hosting of the model is okay in theory based on this concern, but it taints everything regarding deepseek in effect.
- zelphirkalt 2y agoActually asking for banning DeepSeek would be the ultimate admit of defeat by ClosedAI.
- cscurmudgeon 2y agoNo need to ban DeepSeek, just ban Chinese companies from using US frontier models.
- buyucu 2y agothat will have no effect. best frontier models are now chinese.
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- razster 2y agoThe fact it is out and improving day by day. Unsloth.ai is on a roll with their advancements. If DeepSeek is banned hundreds more will popup and change the data ever so slightly to skirt the ban. Pandora's box exploded on this one.
- Logiar 2y agoI'd imagine a ban would be on their service, not the model itself.
- vitaflo 2y agoAll you would do by banning it is killing US progress in AI. The rest of the world is still going to be able to use DS. You're just giving the rest of the world a leg up. TikTok is a consumption tool, DS is a productive one. They aren't the same.
- wqaatwt 2y agoWhat’s so special about DeepSeek, though? I mean anyone else can replicate their methods and catch up. They don’t have a moat anyway.