This is the interview I'm thinking of: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4Cz49MLh4o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4Cz49MLh4o The general topic applies to wh

This is the interview I'm thinking of: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4Cz49MLh4o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4Cz49MLh4o The general topic applies to what I mentioned but even just the specific mouse story is at this point in the video: https://youtu.be/s4Cz49MLh4o?t=90 https://youtu.be/s4Cz49MLh4o?t=90 Folks who operate in a certain context / process or such and just can't imagine doing any differently and will stop you.