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I've read about long COVID and the hallmarks but it seems like Dianna is experiencing something far worse than average. Chronic fatigue is one thing but unable

by tootie 2y ago

I've read about long COVID and the hallmarks but it seems like Dianna is experiencing something far worse than average. Chronic fatigue is one thing but unable to stand for two years is horrendous. Are there any other recorded cases this severe?

garganzol 2y ago
I am not aware about anyone being hit harder than Dianna by post-covid. Her case is extreme. While she is gaining her power back, there is still a considerable probability of acquiring dementia for her, she is in the grey zone now. And note, we read only what meets the eye. Below that line, there were extreme panic attacks (crashes) with a sense of imminent death. I think that in many cases, the death by itself is more peaceful than 100x repetitions of the associated experiences. Panic attacks are usually treated as a psychological phenomenon, but in case of post-covid they have metabolic nature. Tiny parts of body tissues literally die out of energy starvation. It applies to energy-hungry organs first, brain, nervous system, heart, liver, muscles. The heavy cases of post covid is like being a zombie who is still alive, but with tissue hypoxia and consequential tiny necrotic spots hidden inside under a healthy rosy skin.
- badc0ffee 2y ago
  Is any of that last paragraph actually real? Are these tiny dead parts of the body so tiny that we can't actually observe them or something?
  - garganzol 2y ago
    Take a look at Fig. 1 here [0]. That image was taken using muscle biopsy from someone suffering from a metabolic condition. We can clearly see and observe affected spots in tissues using direct material extraction (biopsy). However, not all parts of the body are easily reachable using that method without causing more harm to a living organism. The effect is also observable using CT scanning (way less conclusive). So the last paragraph is quite real, unfortunately. I presume that a tiny part of the brain/nervous system dies when you have a metabolic panic attack, because there is a pronounced cognitive decline after each such attack. [0] https://www.elsevier.es/en-revista-medicina-clinica-english-edition--462-articulo-kidney-involvement-in-melas-syndrome-S238702061730253X?covid=Dr56DrLjUdaMjzAgze452SzSInMN&rfr=truhgiz&y=kEzTXsahn8atJufRpNPuIGh67s1 https://www.elsevier.es/en-revista-medicina-clinica-english-...
Wobbles42 2y ago
To further this, is "long COVID" actually something we can definitively diagnose? Clearly something is going on with Dianna, but if the symptoms or severity don't match other long COVID cases perhaps there is something else going on there.
- garganzol 2y ago
  Usual blood work panel tends to be excellent for post covid suffers. So no widely available diagnostic abilities so far, except looking for hallmark symptoms and trying to get slightest hints from the blood work variations. Potentially, for mild and heavy forms of post-covid, measuring blood lactate and bicarbonate levels may be helpful [0]. But nobody seems to care enough to follow up with organized evaluations to introduce it into general practice. [0] https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10140510/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10140510/

by tootie 2y ago

garganzol 2y ago

I am not aware about anyone being hit harder than Dianna by post-covid. Her case is extreme. While she is gaining her power back, there is still a considerable probability of acquiring dementia for her, she is in the grey zone now. And note, we read only what meets the eye. Below that line, there were extreme panic attacks (crashes) with a sense of imminent death. I think that in many cases, the death by itself is more peaceful than 100x repetitions of the associated experiences. Panic attacks are usually treated as a psychological phenomenon, but in case of post-covid they have metabolic nature. Tiny parts of body tissues literally die out of energy starvation. It applies to energy-hungry organs first, brain, nervous system, heart, liver, muscles. The heavy cases of post covid is like being a zombie who is still alive, but with tissue hypoxia and consequential tiny necrotic spots hidden inside under a healthy rosy skin.

badc0ffee 2y ago
Is any of that last paragraph actually real? Are these tiny dead parts of the body so tiny that we can't actually observe them or something?
- garganzol 2y ago
  Take a look at Fig. 1 here [0]. That image was taken using muscle biopsy from someone suffering from a metabolic condition. We can clearly see and observe affected spots in tissues using direct material extraction (biopsy). However, not all parts of the body are easily reachable using that method without causing more harm to a living organism. The effect is also observable using CT scanning (way less conclusive). So the last paragraph is quite real, unfortunately. I presume that a tiny part of the brain/nervous system dies when you have a metabolic panic attack, because there is a pronounced cognitive decline after each such attack. [0] https://www.elsevier.es/en-revista-medicina-clinica-english-edition--462-articulo-kidney-involvement-in-melas-syndrome-S238702061730253X?covid=Dr56DrLjUdaMjzAgze452SzSInMN&rfr=truhgiz&y=kEzTXsahn8atJufRpNPuIGh67s1 https://www.elsevier.es/en-revista-medicina-clinica-english-...

Wobbles42 2y ago

To further this, is "long COVID" actually something we can definitively diagnose? Clearly something is going on with Dianna, but if the symptoms or severity don't match other long COVID cases perhaps there is something else going on there.

garganzol 2y ago
Usual blood work panel tends to be excellent for post covid suffers. So no widely available diagnostic abilities so far, except looking for hallmark symptoms and trying to get slightest hints from the blood work variations. Potentially, for mild and heavy forms of post-covid, measuring blood lactate and bicarbonate levels may be helpful [0]. But nobody seems to care enough to follow up with organized evaluations to introduce it into general practice. [0] https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10140510/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10140510/