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I hate clickbait articles that try to make the bad guys seem like they're angry. > Both Bloomberg and the Financial Times are reporting that Microsoft and Open
by roshin 2y ago
I hate clickbait articles that try to make the bad guys seem like they're angry.
> Both Bloomberg and the Financial Times are reporting that Microsoft and OpenAI have been probing whether DeepSeek improperly trained the R1 model
The company openai is not angry, or furious, or enraged. They simply suspect that deepseek broke their usage agreement and are trying to verify that.
- csallen 2y agoI came here to say just this. Can we change the headline of this article to something more accurate and less clickbaity? The article unjustifiably labels OpenAI as "furious" despite surfacing zero evidence that that's how they actually feel, obviously in an attempt to paint them as hypocrites who are okay with copying others but are upset at being copied. This is a very dishonestly-framed and -advertised story.
- ZeroTalent 2y agoAs I understand from Twitter, the issue explained in this article is not the actual case at hand. The issue is that they suspect them of stealing the o1 model with the weights via corporate espionage and optimizing it with Matrix Multiplication and other upgrades. That would explain why the outputs are nearly identical in some cases. I don't know how much of any of this is true. This is what I'm reading on Twitter today.
- LPHhimself 2y agoOh geez yeah, if they really managed to optimize it with Matrix Multiplication these guys must be good
- ZeroTalent 2y agoI think what I meant by that is obvious.