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What is it with people like you's selective memory? People were dying in droves in places like India or China, scroll down about halfway to see the funeral pyre

What is it with people like you's selective memory? People were dying in droves in places like India or China, scroll down about halfway to see the funeral pyres: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/piapeterson/covid-pandemic-india-photos https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/piapeterson/covid-pande... They were even just dumping bodies in their holy river because they couldn't afford proper funerals. Congrats for living (I assume) in a modern world with good health and clean air where you were just "inconvenienced" by shut restaurants and having to wear a mask, but hey, MAGA is fixing that too, let them "doge" your life into poorer air quality and less health protections! Winning!

roenxi 2y ago
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- bryanlarsen 2y ago
  1 million Americans died in the first 4 months of the COVID epidemic. That was not normal, nor anywhere close to normal.
  - roenxi 2y ago
    You're undercalling it, that would actually be completely normal. About 1 million US citizens die every 4 months (technically the number of American deaths would be quite a bit higher). The anomaly was that there were about 0.7 million surprise deaths over 12 months (some minority of which would have been caused by the COVID response itself, mind) You can look it up here - https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/number-of-deaths-per-year?country=~USA https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/number-of-deaths-per-year... - the COVID death rate is going to be a pretty good year in the 2030s. It is a statistically significant blip but ultimately the vast majority of deaths were already locked in. It was always going to be about 3 million people each year.
    - 2-3-7-43-1807 2y ago
      also many people died due to restricted access to medical services and simply stress from the panic that was spread.
    - bryanlarsen 2y ago
      The hospitals were at their breaking point in 2022, many of my family were there. If we would have had the normal 1 million flu deaths + car accidents etc on top of the 1 million COVID deaths the health care system would have completely broken down and we would have had a couple more million deaths of things that would normally have been treatable but weren't because the health care system was broken.
      - 2-3-7-43-1807 2y ago
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        bryanlarsen 2y ago
        Family members that worked in a hospital. 2020 COVID and 2022 COVID were very different things. Few people got COVID in 2020, but a high fraction of those who did got hospitalized. Pretty much everybody got it in 2022, and a low fraction of those who did got hospitalized. But a small fraction of "pretty much everybody" is still a large number. And yes, the hospitals are full right now. Flu, RSV, COVID & norovirus all going around. One is bad, 2 at the same time can be really bad. Good thing lock downs prevented that scenario from happening in 2022.
        2-3-7-43-1807 2y ago
        Lockdowns didn't prevent anything that would have justified the harm they brought on society, culture and politics. I know you don't like Russell Brand and he's definitely not doing well ... nonetheless this interview with Tim Robbins basically summarizes my personal experience to the t: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMdOesJo4h8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMdOesJo4h8
  - School-Cotton 2y ago
    About 1% of the US population dies every year even without COVID. This is around three million.

roenxi 2y ago

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bryanlarsen 2y ago
1 million Americans died in the first 4 months of the COVID epidemic. That was not normal, nor anywhere close to normal.
- roenxi 2y ago
  You're undercalling it, that would actually be completely normal. About 1 million US citizens die every 4 months (technically the number of American deaths would be quite a bit higher). The anomaly was that there were about 0.7 million surprise deaths over 12 months (some minority of which would have been caused by the COVID response itself, mind) You can look it up here - https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/number-of-deaths-per-year?country=~USA https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/number-of-deaths-per-year... - the COVID death rate is going to be a pretty good year in the 2030s. It is a statistically significant blip but ultimately the vast majority of deaths were already locked in. It was always going to be about 3 million people each year.
  - 2-3-7-43-1807 2y ago
    also many people died due to restricted access to medical services and simply stress from the panic that was spread.
  - bryanlarsen 2y ago
    The hospitals were at their breaking point in 2022, many of my family were there. If we would have had the normal 1 million flu deaths + car accidents etc on top of the 1 million COVID deaths the health care system would have completely broken down and we would have had a couple more million deaths of things that would normally have been treatable but weren't because the health care system was broken.
    - 2-3-7-43-1807 2y ago
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      - bryanlarsen 2y ago
        Family members that worked in a hospital. 2020 COVID and 2022 COVID were very different things. Few people got COVID in 2020, but a high fraction of those who did got hospitalized. Pretty much everybody got it in 2022, and a low fraction of those who did got hospitalized. But a small fraction of "pretty much everybody" is still a large number. And yes, the hospitals are full right now. Flu, RSV, COVID & norovirus all going around. One is bad, 2 at the same time can be really bad. Good thing lock downs prevented that scenario from happening in 2022.
        2-3-7-43-1807 2y ago
        Lockdowns didn't prevent anything that would have justified the harm they brought on society, culture and politics. I know you don't like Russell Brand and he's definitely not doing well ... nonetheless this interview with Tim Robbins basically summarizes my personal experience to the t: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMdOesJo4h8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMdOesJo4h8
- School-Cotton 2y ago
  About 1% of the US population dies every year even without COVID. This is around three million.