It was indeed an off the record chat, made public. https://www.benzinga.com/government/22/10/29111070/obamas-take-on-trumps-presidency-four-years-is-okay-but-e

It was indeed an off the record chat, made public. https://www.benzinga.com/government/22/10/29111070/obamas-take-on-trumps-presidency-four-years-is-okay-but-eight-years-would-be-a-problem-private-chat https://www.benzinga.com/government/22/10/29111070/obamas-ta...