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This pearl clutching over piracy is extremely ironic in the age of AI. For years it's been said that piracy is akin to stealing money from creators of all sorts

This pearl clutching over piracy is extremely ironic in the age of AI. For years it's been said that piracy is akin to stealing money from creators of all sorts. And ostensibly to protect the rights of those creators we've had various laws and tech solutions like DRM in place. Those tech solutions are supplemented by further laws that make it illegal to break DRM even on content that you paid for and own. Apparently preventing people from breaking DRM on stuff they paid for, protects the rights of content creators somehow. Yet in the midst of all this, AI companies can train their models on any and all content, with zero attribution let alone compensation to the people that created that content, and then rejoice at the number of those people that they'll put of a job. So it's a crime to pirate a movie to watch with your family, but take petabytes worth of data from millions of people to train an AI that you will monetize, and that is perfectly legal.

southernplaces7 2y ago
Pursuing piracy claims against a multi-billion dollar corporation with armies of its own legal sharks and also political lobbying connections is much harder than going after rando sites and casual users of piracy. Ergo, it gets sidestepped. I have my serious quibbles on how piracy and infringement should be defined. However, as they're often currently defined by those seeking sanctions should mean that organizations like OpenAI would absolutely be considered guilty with their scraping. Yet, they get away with it with essentially no legal sanction. Also, shame you were downvoted for your perfectly reasonable observation of a major hypocrisy.
- Vampiero 2y ago
  The law shouldn't be about who can afford the most lawyers. It naturally consolidates power which is pretty dangerous to democracy.
  - southernplaces7 2y ago
    I agree that the law shouldn't be about that. I'm just pointing out how it apparently is when it comes to legal claims and charges of infringing behavior.
Vampiero 2y ago
Same exact thing that happened with united healthcare: it's a crime only when poor people do it.

southernplaces7 2y ago

Pursuing piracy claims against a multi-billion dollar corporation with armies of its own legal sharks and also political lobbying connections is much harder than going after rando sites and casual users of piracy. Ergo, it gets sidestepped. I have my serious quibbles on how piracy and infringement should be defined. However, as they're often currently defined by those seeking sanctions should mean that organizations like OpenAI would absolutely be considered guilty with their scraping. Yet, they get away with it with essentially no legal sanction. Also, shame you were downvoted for your perfectly reasonable observation of a major hypocrisy.

Vampiero 2y ago
The law shouldn't be about who can afford the most lawyers. It naturally consolidates power which is pretty dangerous to democracy.
- southernplaces7 2y ago
  I agree that the law shouldn't be about that. I'm just pointing out how it apparently is when it comes to legal claims and charges of infringing behavior.

Vampiero 2y ago

Same exact thing that happened with united healthcare: it's a crime only when poor people do it.