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Trump has run several successful businesses, and with a 50+ year career several failures as well, which I’d imagine a entrepreneurial board like HN wouldn’t hol
by refurb 2y ago
Trump has run several successful businesses, and with a 50+ year career several failures as well, which I’d imagine a entrepreneurial board like HN wouldn’t hold against him.
- sympil 2y agoHe’s been found by a jury to be a sexual abuser. He can’t run a charity in New York. Stiffs employees and hires illegal workers. He lies constantly and makes shit up. Like using a sharpie to change a NOAA map because he is incapable of admitting he’s wrong. Anyone doing business with him deserves what happens to them. Like all the lawyers, advisors, and sycophants that ended up in prison during his first term in office.
- refurb 2y agoThis doesn’t address my point or the topic at hand at all. He has had severe successful business enterprises.
- sympil 2y agoYou don’t think character counts in terms of whether or not he’d fit in Ycombinator? That says much about either Ycombinator or you. Stiffing employees and not being able to run a charity very much counts in this discussion. As does the tendency of his business partners and confidants to end up in prison. You’d go into business with a rapist who lies constantly?
- refurb 2y agoThe question wasn’t whether he’d “fit in” with YCombinator. But it makes sense that you’re answering every question with another and the one that accused him of being a grapist. You're grasping at straws to avoid admitting he's a successful businessman. ABC News has agreed to pay $15m (£12m) to US President-elect Donald Trump to settle a defamation lawsuit after its star anchor falsely said he had been found "liable for rape". https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgrw57q4y9do https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgrw57q4y9do
- sympil 2y agoHere’s the post you originally responded to: Does it? Do we truly need to be born anew every day, unable to look into the past to see how Trump has run his businesses, or how he conducted his first term, or how he has promised to run his second? His character is relevant to the discussion. He cheats. He lies. He steals. He rapes. He shirks responsibility. But he has made a lot of money. Like the $30 billion in bribes he took 2 weeks ago. He is a great buinessman but that is not relevant to the discussion. Reread what the origanal poster wrote to see this. It was about his character and how we can judge the future by his past deeds. My responses included rhetorical questions.
- refurb 2y agoMy original comment was "Trump has run several successful businesses, and with a 50+ year career several failures as well". I'm not interested in arguing about the comments someone else made.
- sympil 2y agoYour comment was in response to someone and that provides the context for the discussion.
- refurb 2y agoIt wasn’t very relevant. First comment asked “we’ll need to wait and see if the admin can deliver”, then next “do we? Or do we have data to go on?” and my comment “he has run several successful businesses” followed by “his character is bad”. The logic doesn’t follow, just an attempt to bad mouth.
- auntienomen 2y agoHe's been convicted of accounting fraud and he's nowhere near delivering the kind of returns that YCombinator seeks. Plenty of things to hold against him.
- refurb 2y agoYou’re really reaching, LOL. No, he wasn’t convicted of accounting fraud. What else do you believe that’s wrong? Not to mention it’s a misdemeanor unless politics demands a felony. And “delivering the kinds of returns YC does”? Is that the bar now? How’s Obama stack up? LOL
- cemerick 2y agoA bag of leveraged real estate and casino holdings, plus a smattering of dollar store swindles is what denotes entrepreneurialism in the modern HN world? Wild times.
- refurb 2y agoFunny how you call it "leveraged" when it's just fund raising. He's built numerous building from scratch. He gathered investors, built, then operated or sold. Sound familiar?
- mcphage 2y agoHN has a pretty low tolerance for fraud.