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How did you get permitted without an inspection or adhering to code?

bluGill 2y ago
In rural areas this isn't too hard as they often don't have the in the first place. Of course there are reasons people generally live in cities.
- cma 2y ago
  Also reasons for codes, don't want to have to wonder if every building you're in is a death trap. And when buying a house you don't want to have to tear it apart to inspect it and look for balloon framing or lack of fire stops.
  - ty6853 2y ago
    Flippers bid the death traps to oblivion during circa 0% loan inflation binge fest during COVID. I tried looking for a freestanding deathtrap first but they were all 160k+ and that's burnt to a husk. That is how I ended up DIYing from raw land.
  - potato3732842 2y ago
    Nobody is building death traps to live in as their own home. The people who are only on a deathtrap budget are not engaging in those projects, they're renting. The people building death traps are slumlords dividing shit and fly by night contractors and flippers altering things <screeches in open floor plan>.
    - bluGill 2y ago
      That is false. Plenty of people build death traps as their own home. Nobody will know if you remove a load bearing wall without a permit so long as you are not obvious about that work. Slumlords are generally in a place where people will know. Slumlords do want cheap, but they need to get money from the bank and that means the bank will care about quality. Slumlords also don't want to lose everything if the building burns. Note however that quality to a bank and slumlord are things you cannot see and so their buildings often look dangerous while being safe. (I'm not saying all slumlords are perfect, just that their reputation is on a few graphic failures that often were 100 years ago)
      - potato3732842 2y ago
        The permit isn't what keeps you safe (except from being shot by the government at the behest of people who think like you). What keeps you safe is not doing a shit job. When working in one's own home it's far easier to just over-build things than to engineer things to the bare minimum or pay someone to tell you what that minimum is. Also slumlords are the guys doubling the number of units in an existing triple decker, not the guys building new stuff.

In rural areas this isn't too hard as they often don't have the in the first place. Of course there are reasons people generally live in cities.

cma 2y ago
Also reasons for codes, don't want to have to wonder if every building you're in is a death trap. And when buying a house you don't want to have to tear it apart to inspect it and look for balloon framing or lack of fire stops.
- ty6853 2y ago
  Flippers bid the death traps to oblivion during circa 0% loan inflation binge fest during COVID. I tried looking for a freestanding deathtrap first but they were all 160k+ and that's burnt to a husk. That is how I ended up DIYing from raw land.
- potato3732842 2y ago
  Nobody is building death traps to live in as their own home. The people who are only on a deathtrap budget are not engaging in those projects, they're renting. The people building death traps are slumlords dividing shit and fly by night contractors and flippers altering things <screeches in open floor plan>.
  - bluGill 2y ago
    That is false. Plenty of people build death traps as their own home. Nobody will know if you remove a load bearing wall without a permit so long as you are not obvious about that work. Slumlords are generally in a place where people will know. Slumlords do want cheap, but they need to get money from the bank and that means the bank will care about quality. Slumlords also don't want to lose everything if the building burns. Note however that quality to a bank and slumlord are things you cannot see and so their buildings often look dangerous while being safe. (I'm not saying all slumlords are perfect, just that their reputation is on a few graphic failures that often were 100 years ago)
    - potato3732842 2y ago
      The permit isn't what keeps you safe (except from being shot by the government at the behest of people who think like you). What keeps you safe is not doing a shit job. When working in one's own home it's far easier to just over-build things than to engineer things to the bare minimum or pay someone to tell you what that minimum is. Also slumlords are the guys doubling the number of units in an existing triple decker, not the guys building new stuff.