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My Spotify experience was poisoned as soon as I signed up some 8 years ago to try it; I realized there was no way to remove the popular but garbage music from t

My Spotify experience was poisoned as soon as I signed up some 8 years ago to try it; I realized there was no way to remove the popular but garbage music from the dashboard. It was essentially advertising space for slop. So I cancelled my subscription within 1-2 days. I instead ended up going with Youtube Music which doesn't try to push propaganda on me and instead either shows me what I have in my library already that I have saved and/or uploaded myself, and music that they think I'd enjoy based off of my library. Prior to this like many other people I was a hardcore Grooveshark fan/user. There were other services, but their names escape me at the moment. I was looking for a replacement and platforms kept coming and going, but Youtube Music (for all of Google's faults) seem to have stayed all this time. I'm still using it, it's still not pushing slop on me. I'm happy. As an aside, accepting that I'm in the minority here speaking on behalf of them, I am not someone who would write a blog post announcing that I'm leaving some shitty platform. I'll just cancel my sub and move on. I don't need nor want to grandstand regardless of AI or just people's shit taste.

numbsafari 2y ago
My wife continues to mourn the loss of Grooveshark and brings it up at least once a year. It was pretty amazing.
- photon_collider 2y ago
  Ah, I remember Grooveshark. I discovered so much good music there.
- grapesodaaaaa 2y ago
  Grooveshark was so amazing
- grapesodaaaaa 2y ago
  also on that note. I found so much new music on Turntable.fm That’s personally the site that I really mourn.
- pmarreck 2y ago
  Just learned that the CEO died of mysterious causes. My jam was Audiogalaxy. One thing that has always pissed me off is the heavy-handed way the Big 3 labels have dealt with this.
- therealfiona 2y ago
  If this is the dead music service mourning sub-thread, I'm gonna say trance.fm. Nothing has replaced it.
- mfkp 2y ago
  I still wear my grooveshark startup T-shirt from time to time, one of my most prized possessions.
- XCSme 2y ago
  I even created a tutorial for making the Grooveshark logo https://www.tips4design.com/2010/08/ai-draw-grooveshark-logo.html https://www.tips4design.com/2010/08/ai-draw-grooveshark-logo...
mvdtnz 2y ago
> As an aside, accepting that I'm in the minority here speaking on behalf of them, I am not someone who would write a blog post announcing that I'm leaving some shitty platform. I'll just cancel my sub and move on. I don't need nor want to grandstand regardless of AI or just people's shit taste. Without someone writing the post you wouldn't be here discussing it. I applaud the author for writing his short post on his own personal website. He's hardly "grandstanding". You're the only one who claims to be "speaking on behalf" of others.
albertsondev 2y ago
Personally I've had loads of issues with YouTube music, largely in that it regularly makes a point of inserting various popular songs into playlists and radios of otherwise very niche genres (which they have nothing to do with) I strongly prefer to listen to. The more niche the genre, the higher the percentage of what follows is typically in line with it... for a while. Sooner or later everything gets infested with the same tripe I don't want to have to deal with listening to on my own time. It's not even good for discovery, as when I try to let a mix go off of a genre or artist that's new to me it isn't long at all before I spend more time skipping past the same nonsense than I do actually listening to music, new or old. I work in a public-facing environment. I already hear every single one of these songs, none of which I liked to begin with, to a sickening extent over the radio. Leave me to my esoteric tastes and take the chart-toppers elsewhere. This is an issue I've had across the board, though, be it Spotify, YT Music, heavily curated Pandora stations, or any other streaming service I've tried; nowadays I strongly prefer simply listening to my local library (which I've played to death, but at least it's to my own preferences) instead. Show me a platform that stays in its damn lane where I can listen to what I want to, and I'll gladly hand over my cash; I'm not gonna do that to be made to listen to the same junk that scored me making that cash to begin with.
- scojjac 2y ago
  What was your experience with Tidal? I felt like it was better at recommending new albums and artists I want familiar with and there was much less of a focus on playlists.
  - albertsondev 2y ago
    I haven't used Tidal yet, myself. I've got a mind to, though, especially as it seems much friendlier to artists than most--I'd even consider publishing my own music there, whereas other streaming services (with maybe the sole exception of YouTube music for sheer discoverability) are hard "no"s that I personally explicitly refuse to touch.
jbarrs 2y ago
This drove me insane a little while ago. Every single "personalised" Spotify playlist that got shovelled my way had a bunch of songs on it from Olivia Rodrigo's latest album, regardless of whether they fit the playlist theme or not. I don't listen to Olivia Rodrigo, and consistently skip her songs when they come up because they just aren't my cup of tea, but Spotify continued to shoehorn them into every playlist I listened to. Same thing with the AI DJ. There are some days where it just never misses, and I can listen for hours without skipping a single song. Other days, it feels like every other theme is "here's an artist we've been paid to advertise", and I end up getting tired of it pretty quickly.
- stogot 2y ago
  Does it still happen if you thumbs down that song? Do they still have that feature?

numbsafari 2y ago

My wife continues to mourn the loss of Grooveshark and brings it up at least once a year. It was pretty amazing.

photon_collider 2y ago
Ah, I remember Grooveshark. I discovered so much good music there.
grapesodaaaaa 2y ago
Grooveshark was so amazing
grapesodaaaaa 2y ago
also on that note. I found so much new music on Turntable.fm That’s personally the site that I really mourn.
pmarreck 2y ago
Just learned that the CEO died of mysterious causes. My jam was Audiogalaxy. One thing that has always pissed me off is the heavy-handed way the Big 3 labels have dealt with this.
therealfiona 2y ago
If this is the dead music service mourning sub-thread, I'm gonna say trance.fm. Nothing has replaced it.
mfkp 2y ago
I still wear my grooveshark startup T-shirt from time to time, one of my most prized possessions.
XCSme 2y ago
I even created a tutorial for making the Grooveshark logo https://www.tips4design.com/2010/08/ai-draw-grooveshark-logo.html https://www.tips4design.com/2010/08/ai-draw-grooveshark-logo...

mvdtnz 2y ago

> As an aside, accepting that I'm in the minority here speaking on behalf of them, I am not someone who would write a blog post announcing that I'm leaving some shitty platform. I'll just cancel my sub and move on. I don't need nor want to grandstand regardless of AI or just people's shit taste. Without someone writing the post you wouldn't be here discussing it. I applaud the author for writing his short post on his own personal website. He's hardly "grandstanding". You're the only one who claims to be "speaking on behalf" of others.

albertsondev 2y ago

Personally I've had loads of issues with YouTube music, largely in that it regularly makes a point of inserting various popular songs into playlists and radios of otherwise very niche genres (which they have nothing to do with) I strongly prefer to listen to. The more niche the genre, the higher the percentage of what follows is typically in line with it... for a while. Sooner or later everything gets infested with the same tripe I don't want to have to deal with listening to on my own time. It's not even good for discovery, as when I try to let a mix go off of a genre or artist that's new to me it isn't long at all before I spend more time skipping past the same nonsense than I do actually listening to music, new or old. I work in a public-facing environment. I already hear every single one of these songs, none of which I liked to begin with, to a sickening extent over the radio. Leave me to my esoteric tastes and take the chart-toppers elsewhere. This is an issue I've had across the board, though, be it Spotify, YT Music, heavily curated Pandora stations, or any other streaming service I've tried; nowadays I strongly prefer simply listening to my local library (which I've played to death, but at least it's to my own preferences) instead. Show me a platform that stays in its damn lane where I can listen to what I want to, and I'll gladly hand over my cash; I'm not gonna do that to be made to listen to the same junk that scored me making that cash to begin with.

scojjac 2y ago
What was your experience with Tidal? I felt like it was better at recommending new albums and artists I want familiar with and there was much less of a focus on playlists.
- albertsondev 2y ago
  I haven't used Tidal yet, myself. I've got a mind to, though, especially as it seems much friendlier to artists than most--I'd even consider publishing my own music there, whereas other streaming services (with maybe the sole exception of YouTube music for sheer discoverability) are hard "no"s that I personally explicitly refuse to touch.

jbarrs 2y ago

This drove me insane a little while ago. Every single "personalised" Spotify playlist that got shovelled my way had a bunch of songs on it from Olivia Rodrigo's latest album, regardless of whether they fit the playlist theme or not. I don't listen to Olivia Rodrigo, and consistently skip her songs when they come up because they just aren't my cup of tea, but Spotify continued to shoehorn them into every playlist I listened to. Same thing with the AI DJ. There are some days where it just never misses, and I can listen for hours without skipping a single song. Other days, it feels like every other theme is "here's an artist we've been paid to advertise", and I end up getting tired of it pretty quickly.

stogot 2y ago
Does it still happen if you thumbs down that song? Do they still have that feature?