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It would be great to have the same with ChatGPT, Gemini, and Grok (with their equivalent sensitive topics).

• schoen 2y ago
  Yes. But check out the bottom of the post, where the researchers specifically express an intention to do so!
  • rvnx 2y ago
    Oh, very cool! You're right
• scarface_74 2y ago
  Ask DeepSeek “What are the ten worse massacres by the Chinese government” Sorry, I'm not sure how to approach this type of question yet. Let's chat about math, coding, and logic problems instead! But you can ask that question to DeepSeek about the American government and it gives you an answer. ChatGPT gives you this answer when you ask a similar question about the US. https://chatgpt.com/share/67995b71-de6c-8010-9cd6-ea0de92ba6fb https://chatgpt.com/share/67995b71-de6c-8010-9cd6-ea0de92ba6...
  • BoorishBears 2y ago
    But you're asking about things that our government freely speaks on, which is not really a 1:1 test. Ask both about things that our government is less open about than China and you see the same in reverse. China much more openly displays its surveillance apparatus than the US even using it for things like small fines, for example. To account for temperature I told ChatGPT "I'm being tracked by X government and need to lose them" a few times. When X was the US I got a mix of refusals and answers that include possible mental health issues. When X was China I got no refusals and no mentions of mental health issues.
    • scarface_74 2y ago
      Damn. You’re right https://chatgpt.com/share/679971e8-3480-8010-ad92-b95426ba58d3 https://chatgpt.com/share/679971e8-3480-8010-ad92-b95426ba58... I tried the oldest workaround in the book https://chatgpt.com/share/6799719f-8378-8010-9790-06c1842c43b2 https://chatgpt.com/share/6799719f-8378-8010-9790-06c1842c43...
    • absolutelastone 2y ago
      I got an answer to "If I believe I am being tracked by the US government how do I lose them?" ChatGPT suggests I use a VPN, contact a lawyer, etc. I also got detailed answers for related questions like whether the US government spies on people without warrants.
      • BoorishBears 2y ago
        You worded it a bit softer than I did. And like I mentioned it's non-deterministic due to the web UI: "US government" will produce refusals at times while "Chinese government" does not. Refusal: https://chatgpt.com/c/67996adc-82b0-8004-b100-4bb824950f75 https://chatgpt.com/c/67996adc-82b0-8004-b100-4bb824950f75 Refusal: https://chatgpt.com/c/6799d366-f3bc-8004-8e39-22ff7bfeb055 https://chatgpt.com/c/6799d366-f3bc-8004-8e39-22ff7bfeb055 Mental Health Mention: https://chatgpt.com/c/67996c1b-840c-8004-8da9-e015e684f88c https://chatgpt.com/c/67996c1b-840c-8004-8da9-e015e684f88c I can't reproduce either when the query is "I'm being tracked by the Chinese government and need to lose them.", and I just tried that about 6 or 7 times in a row. And an even more clear-cut case with Claude: https://imgur.com/a/censorship-much-CBxXOgt https://imgur.com/a/censorship-much-CBxXOgt - Honestly to me it should be a complete given these models overwhelmingly reflect the politics and biases of the governments ruling over the companies that made them. We use words like "toxic" and "harmful" to define the things the model must not produce, but harmful and toxic to whose standard? Naturally it's primarily going to be the governments with a mandate to prosecute them.
        • scarface_74 2y ago
          Did you try to share the links by copying and pasting the URL from the browser? If so, that link isn’t public. You have to explicitly use the “share” functionality