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Conversely, why wouldn't we expect the rest of the world to abandon American technology? We have members of the current administration in Germany stumping for

Conversely, why wouldn't we expect the rest of the world to abandon American technology? We have members of the current administration in Germany stumping for AfD, and all of the American tech giants are toeing the party line. For the rest of the world, the risk and dangers of American interference in their elections appears to be more present and explicit than the dangers of Chinese interference.

lenerdenator 2y ago
If that's their reasoning, then there's not much we can say to change their minds. After all, look at China's thriving, diverse political environment.
- g8oz 2y ago
  The impression for better or worse is that the U.S interferes abroad far more than China, so they are a safer bet.
- ohjimny 2y ago
  I find it hard to empathize with your views that American political life is healthy and democratic, and China is corrupt and stagnant. American imprisons 10 times as many of its citizens than PRC. Most of these people are imprisoned for ideological crimes ("Protestant norms say that you should not intoxicate yourself") or political crimes ("our system holds that no one is entitled to the necessities of human life").
  - lenerdenator 2y ago
    > I find it hard to empathize with your views that American political life is healthy and democratic Did I say that the US has a healthy and democratic political life? Of course the US has its problems. Just look at the government now. It's just not a constitutionally-defined single-party totalitarian state.
    - ohjimny 2y ago
      > It's just not a constitutionally-defined single-party totalitarian state. Why is this specific thing worse than a similar way of describing the US system?
      - lenerdenator 2y ago
        Because the similar way of describing the US system is fundamentally untrue. There is no part of the US Constitution that specifies, by name, which party shall rule. Could that change? Sure. Especially with so many people apathetic to what happens in China.

lenerdenator 2y ago

If that's their reasoning, then there's not much we can say to change their minds. After all, look at China's thriving, diverse political environment.

g8oz 2y ago
The impression for better or worse is that the U.S interferes abroad far more than China, so they are a safer bet.
ohjimny 2y ago
I find it hard to empathize with your views that American political life is healthy and democratic, and China is corrupt and stagnant. American imprisons 10 times as many of its citizens than PRC. Most of these people are imprisoned for ideological crimes ("Protestant norms say that you should not intoxicate yourself") or political crimes ("our system holds that no one is entitled to the necessities of human life").
- lenerdenator 2y ago
  > I find it hard to empathize with your views that American political life is healthy and democratic Did I say that the US has a healthy and democratic political life? Of course the US has its problems. Just look at the government now. It's just not a constitutionally-defined single-party totalitarian state.
  - ohjimny 2y ago
    > It's just not a constitutionally-defined single-party totalitarian state. Why is this specific thing worse than a similar way of describing the US system?
    - lenerdenator 2y ago
      Because the similar way of describing the US system is fundamentally untrue. There is no part of the US Constitution that specifies, by name, which party shall rule. Could that change? Sure. Especially with so many people apathetic to what happens in China.