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When OpenAI does this, it's for "AI safety." When a Chinese company does this, it's "literally '1984.'" Which one is it?

raxxor 2y ago
The Chinese company also released the means to correct this though.
1oooqooq 2y ago
there's a video exactly like this (app changes text mid response) of people asking gemini if google is evil.
- ok123456 2y ago
  After a lot of thinking, DeekSeek said, "In summary, while Google provides significant value, its extractive tendencies and potential for harm mean it is leaning towards a more negative overall impact on society."
snakeyjake 2y ago
There is a difference between not telling someone how to make Sarin/age-gating certain topics and censoring works of fiction or references to politicians and anyone who claims there is not is so full of shit they need to have their stomach pumped.
- ok123456 2y ago
  Yet, search engines showed you that stuff from the very origins of the internet.
  - snakeyjake 2y ago
    So what? And? "they did it so we're doing it to" is childish, worse than childish: infantile. Looking into the social media footprints of people who are most vocal about censorship in various models it appears that for a great deal of them the primary problem they have is that they are being blocked from generating images of minors from japanese cartoons being raped.
    - ok123456 2y ago
      Not wanting censorship isn't childish and "infantile."
bko 2y ago
An interesting question is whether AI can be manipulated effectively. In other words, can I teach a state of the art useful model that believes 2+2=5 Sure you can get it to state 2+2=5 if asked, but there are a lot of ways to ask about 2+2 and various implications of a system of knowledge that believes 2+2=5. If having the LLM believe untruths borks the models, then that's a good thing. I think a similar question is about encryption. Is the nature of encryption defensive or offensive. I don't know enough to say its directly related to p=np but I imagine the question is if there is a way to encrypt something such that the physical laws of nature make cracking the encryption impractical.
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raxxor 2y ago

The Chinese company also released the means to correct this though.

1oooqooq 2y ago

there's a video exactly like this (app changes text mid response) of people asking gemini if google is evil.

ok123456 2y ago
After a lot of thinking, DeekSeek said, "In summary, while Google provides significant value, its extractive tendencies and potential for harm mean it is leaning towards a more negative overall impact on society."

snakeyjake 2y ago

There is a difference between not telling someone how to make Sarin/age-gating certain topics and censoring works of fiction or references to politicians and anyone who claims there is not is so full of shit they need to have their stomach pumped.

ok123456 2y ago
Yet, search engines showed you that stuff from the very origins of the internet.
- snakeyjake 2y ago
  So what? And? "they did it so we're doing it to" is childish, worse than childish: infantile. Looking into the social media footprints of people who are most vocal about censorship in various models it appears that for a great deal of them the primary problem they have is that they are being blocked from generating images of minors from japanese cartoons being raped.
  - ok123456 2y ago
    Not wanting censorship isn't childish and "infantile."

bko 2y ago

An interesting question is whether AI can be manipulated effectively. In other words, can I teach a state of the art useful model that believes 2+2=5 Sure you can get it to state 2+2=5 if asked, but there are a lot of ways to ask about 2+2 and various implications of a system of knowledge that believes 2+2=5. If having the LLM believe untruths borks the models, then that's a good thing. I think a similar question is about encryption. Is the nature of encryption defensive or offensive. I don't know enough to say its directly related to p=np but I imagine the question is if there is a way to encrypt something such that the physical laws of nature make cracking the encryption impractical.

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