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Why is a non-smoker’s right not to breath in smoke not included in your calculation? Why is it only the smoker (well the smoker in a very narrow and specific ca

Why is a non-smoker’s right not to breath in smoke not included in your calculation? Why is it only the smoker (well the smoker in a very narrow and specific case) that is being “pushed” now and not the non-smokers having been pushed for decades? The closer you live to others, the more your individual actions can and do affect others. The ‘my liberty ends where yours begins' concept. Of course there is no perfect universal right answer to any given line, but there is no obligation to “carve out” anything. I don’t want to be forced to breath in their smoke while I’m in my apartment either, and I don’t have the option to not breath. Letting it "just fizzle out" is failing to protect the rights and freedoms of non-smokers.

ryandvm 2y ago
The idea that outdoor smokers are impinging on your right to breathe is a bit of a stretch. You can breathe just fine and there is no evidence that catching the stray odor of a cigarette has any impact at all on your health. These people are sucking this smoke directly into their lungs all day for years on end and only a minority of them will ever actually develop cancer and you're going to act like you can't breathe if you smell one? Should we outlaw public farting too?
- rsanek 2y ago
  i don't think breathing in farts has been shown to have negative health impacts
- 542354234235 2y ago
  This comment chain is about smoking indoors in apartment buildings and more broadly the general rights of smoker's vs non-smokers in a historical sense. To pretend that my comment was in any way about being outdoors and occasionally smelling a whiff of cigarette smoke is either ignorant or malicious, just so you could pretend to be making some gotcha counterpoint.
- ghusto 2y ago
  > The idea that outdoor smokers are impinging on your right to breathe is a bit of a stretch I’m sitting out on a terrace and you’re smoking next to me. I have to either move inside the cafe, or leave. This isn’t a hypothetical, it’s what I face every time I go out. So no it’s not a stretch. The majority of society would rather you don’t smoke. You live in that society, so choices are to either stop smoking, or continue because what you want is more important (aka being a dick).
- throwaway1625 2y ago
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ryandvm 2y ago

The idea that outdoor smokers are impinging on your right to breathe is a bit of a stretch. You can breathe just fine and there is no evidence that catching the stray odor of a cigarette has any impact at all on your health. These people are sucking this smoke directly into their lungs all day for years on end and only a minority of them will ever actually develop cancer and you're going to act like you can't breathe if you smell one? Should we outlaw public farting too?

rsanek 2y ago
i don't think breathing in farts has been shown to have negative health impacts
542354234235 2y ago
This comment chain is about smoking indoors in apartment buildings and more broadly the general rights of smoker's vs non-smokers in a historical sense. To pretend that my comment was in any way about being outdoors and occasionally smelling a whiff of cigarette smoke is either ignorant or malicious, just so you could pretend to be making some gotcha counterpoint.
ghusto 2y ago
> The idea that outdoor smokers are impinging on your right to breathe is a bit of a stretch I’m sitting out on a terrace and you’re smoking next to me. I have to either move inside the cafe, or leave. This isn’t a hypothetical, it’s what I face every time I go out. So no it’s not a stretch. The majority of society would rather you don’t smoke. You live in that society, so choices are to either stop smoking, or continue because what you want is more important (aka being a dick).
throwaway1625 2y ago
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