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That's a misunderstanding then. They found a weapon and are claiming a connection, but you should not believe a connection just because the police claim it.

by aqme28 2y ago

csomar 2y ago
From the article: > The search turned up what police say is the murder weapon in the suspect’s home. You can't just pull up a weapon from the suspect home and call it a "murder weapon". They has at least to be some connection especially that everyone and his dog has a weapon in America.
- llamaimperative 2y ago
  Sure you can. It’s called just making shit up. Police do it all the time, that’s what the article is about.
  - bombcar 2y ago
    More importantly, and most people don't realize it, but the police normally find enough evidence to get the suspect to admit and take a plea. So much of the time they don't need to get evidence to convince a jury, they just need to get the suspect to believe they have enough evidence to convince a jury. This all "works" because in some large percentage of murder cases, everyone knows who did it, because the "tv show unexplained unexpected murder by someone random of someone they don't even know" is rare.
- aqme28 2y ago
  > You can't just pull up a weapon from the suspect home and call it a "murder weapon". There is ample history of the police doing this. You should not trust them at face value the same way you do not trust the defendant at face value.
- rightbyte 2y ago
  At most I guess they found a cartidge that could have been fired by the suspects weapon. Bullet forensics is not that accurate.
- dragonwriter 2y ago
  > You can't just pull up a weapon from the suspect home and call it a "murder weapon" Yes, you can, and without any reference to evidence establishing that it is the murder weapon beyond it being described as “what police say is the murder weapon”, you should absolutely consider the probability that that is exactly what the police are doing.

That's a misunderstanding then. They found a weapon and are claiming a connection, but you should not believe a connection just because the police claim it.

by aqme28 2y ago

That's a misunderstanding then. They found a weapon and are claiming a connection, but you should not believe a connection just because the police claim it.

csomar 2y ago

From the article: > The search turned up what police say is the murder weapon in the suspect’s home. You can't just pull up a weapon from the suspect home and call it a "murder weapon". They has at least to be some connection especially that everyone and his dog has a weapon in America.

llamaimperative 2y ago
Sure you can. It’s called just making shit up. Police do it all the time, that’s what the article is about.
- bombcar 2y ago
  More importantly, and most people don't realize it, but the police normally find enough evidence to get the suspect to admit and take a plea. So much of the time they don't need to get evidence to convince a jury, they just need to get the suspect to believe they have enough evidence to convince a jury. This all "works" because in some large percentage of murder cases, everyone knows who did it, because the "tv show unexplained unexpected murder by someone random of someone they don't even know" is rare.
aqme28 2y ago
> You can't just pull up a weapon from the suspect home and call it a "murder weapon". There is ample history of the police doing this. You should not trust them at face value the same way you do not trust the defendant at face value.
rightbyte 2y ago
At most I guess they found a cartidge that could have been fired by the suspects weapon. Bullet forensics is not that accurate.
dragonwriter 2y ago
> You can't just pull up a weapon from the suspect home and call it a "murder weapon" Yes, you can, and without any reference to evidence establishing that it is the murder weapon beyond it being described as “what police say is the murder weapon”, you should absolutely consider the probability that that is exactly what the police are doing.