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Trump to Tariff Chips Made in Taiwan, Targeting TSMC

26 points by _____k 2y ago

blackeyeblitzar 2y ago
Is Trump setting up Taiwan to become economically irrelevant and thinking to just let China take it over?
- bayindirh 2y ago
  Or, won't this move high-tech manufacturing to elsewhere, there these goods are tax-exempt? I don't think US can replace all the manufacturing capability and move all in country "just like that".
  - johnnyanmac 2y ago
    >“We want them to come back... And we don’t want to give them billions of dollars like this ridiculous program that Biden has given everybody billions of dollars. They already have billions of dollars” Trump said before slamming the US’s CHIPS and Science Act, which his predecessor President Biden signed to invest over $52 billion in domestic chip manufacturing. He really will just contradict himself in the same sentence if it means he takes full credit for something in the end. Nevermind that he gave out 500 billion to a bunch of trillionaire companies not even a week ago.
    - bayindirh 2y ago
      Maybe he wanted to say that "We won't give billions of dollars to people I don't like, but instead will give trillions of dollars to people I like". Who knows? I'm not from US, so it might be an absurd interpretation of what he said.
      - PeakKS 2y ago
        No you are right, that is pretty much the basis of his platform.
- throw0101c 2y ago
  > Is Trump setting up Taiwan to become economically irrelevant and thinking to just let China take it over? From another report: > Jan 28 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump plans to impose tariffs on imported computer chips, pharmaceuticals and steel, he said on Monday, to push companies to manufacture more in the United States. * https://www.reuters.com/world/trump-tariffs-chips-drugs-would-hit-us-allies-asia-2025-01-28/ https://www.reuters.com/world/trump-tariffs-chips-drugs-woul... Personally, if I were running TSMC, I wouldn't add more production capacity in the US other than what's already in progress out of spite. If Americans (or their rulers) want to pay extra for the same product and re-ignite inflation that's their prerogative.
  - IAmGraydon 2y ago
    Luckily, people who run massive international corporations generally don't make decisions "out of spite" or they wouldn't have a massive international corporation in the first place. You play the game you're handed. What you're suggesting is like childishly flipping the table.
    - throw0101c 2y ago
      > Luckily, people who run massive international corporations generally don't make decisions "out of spite" or they wouldn't have a massive international corporation in the first place. People who run the largest economy on the planet do make decisions out of spite, e.g., "Justice Department moves to fire at least 12 officials who investigated Trump": * https://www.npr.org/2025/01/27/nx-s1-5276334/justice-department-firings-trump-special-counsel-jack-smith https://www.npr.org/2025/01/27/nx-s1-5276334/justice-departm... So acting like we're in a rational situation and dealing with rational counterparties would itself be irrational. > What you're suggesting is like childishly flipping the table. Or it could be a reasonable response at an attempt at (economic) bullying. There are some people who only understand a punch in the face.
donmcronald 2y ago
I can’t figure out if I should be investing in depressed stocks tomorrow or panic buying iPads. It’s going to be interesting to see what impact this has on the market.
ChrisArchitect 2y ago
Earlier: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42849089 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42849089

26 points by _____k 2y ago

blackeyeblitzar 2y ago

Is Trump setting up Taiwan to become economically irrelevant and thinking to just let China take it over?

bayindirh 2y ago
Or, won't this move high-tech manufacturing to elsewhere, there these goods are tax-exempt? I don't think US can replace all the manufacturing capability and move all in country "just like that".
- johnnyanmac 2y ago
  >“We want them to come back... And we don’t want to give them billions of dollars like this ridiculous program that Biden has given everybody billions of dollars. They already have billions of dollars” Trump said before slamming the US’s CHIPS and Science Act, which his predecessor President Biden signed to invest over $52 billion in domestic chip manufacturing. He really will just contradict himself in the same sentence if it means he takes full credit for something in the end. Nevermind that he gave out 500 billion to a bunch of trillionaire companies not even a week ago.
  - bayindirh 2y ago
    Maybe he wanted to say that "We won't give billions of dollars to people I don't like, but instead will give trillions of dollars to people I like". Who knows? I'm not from US, so it might be an absurd interpretation of what he said.
    - PeakKS 2y ago
      No you are right, that is pretty much the basis of his platform.
throw0101c 2y ago
> Is Trump setting up Taiwan to become economically irrelevant and thinking to just let China take it over? From another report: > Jan 28 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump plans to impose tariffs on imported computer chips, pharmaceuticals and steel, he said on Monday, to push companies to manufacture more in the United States. * https://www.reuters.com/world/trump-tariffs-chips-drugs-would-hit-us-allies-asia-2025-01-28/ https://www.reuters.com/world/trump-tariffs-chips-drugs-woul... Personally, if I were running TSMC, I wouldn't add more production capacity in the US other than what's already in progress out of spite. If Americans (or their rulers) want to pay extra for the same product and re-ignite inflation that's their prerogative.
- IAmGraydon 2y ago
  Luckily, people who run massive international corporations generally don't make decisions "out of spite" or they wouldn't have a massive international corporation in the first place. You play the game you're handed. What you're suggesting is like childishly flipping the table.
  - throw0101c 2y ago
    > Luckily, people who run massive international corporations generally don't make decisions "out of spite" or they wouldn't have a massive international corporation in the first place. People who run the largest economy on the planet do make decisions out of spite, e.g., "Justice Department moves to fire at least 12 officials who investigated Trump": * https://www.npr.org/2025/01/27/nx-s1-5276334/justice-department-firings-trump-special-counsel-jack-smith https://www.npr.org/2025/01/27/nx-s1-5276334/justice-departm... So acting like we're in a rational situation and dealing with rational counterparties would itself be irrational. > What you're suggesting is like childishly flipping the table. Or it could be a reasonable response at an attempt at (economic) bullying. There are some people who only understand a punch in the face.

donmcronald 2y ago

I can’t figure out if I should be investing in depressed stocks tomorrow or panic buying iPads. It’s going to be interesting to see what impact this has on the market.

ChrisArchitect 2y ago

Earlier: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42849089 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42849089