> I'm deeply convinced that mathematicians (or at least, mathematicians wanna-be) are by far the most toxic breed of people I've ever encountered OP is talking

> I'm deeply convinced that mathematicians (or at least, mathematicians wanna-be) are by far the most toxic breed of people I've ever encountered OP is talking about people in the math department of an elite university. I've seen a lot of that online, but math people I've known in person have usually been kind and gentle souls. Maybe it's because I've only been at middling state schools. Other commenters there remark on the same thing. I wonder if in general a math department at a good state school might be a healthier environment.