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Exactly, running it locally i didnt have any problems to get it to answer any questions, why is everyone surprised that the online one has filters?

esafak 2y ago
That's the most generous thing they can do, given their legal constraints.
- otherme123 2y ago
  It's just their reality. I've dealt with chinese business, and they take their constraints with great attention, even if they personally don't care or even are against. We have the same with copyrighted stuff: we have to be extra careful to not include an image, a font or a text paragraph where we shouldn't, even by mistake, or the consequences could be catastrophic. They take copyright less seriously, and I'm sure they also feel we are weird for having such constraints. "But our situation is logic, and theirs is madness", said both parts.
  - gaudystead 2y ago
    A wild - but pretty accurate - perspective of societal priorities...
unethical_ban 2y ago
It isn't surprise. It is continued vigilance and calling to attention a very bad behavior.
- rvnx 2y ago
  This is the law, respecting the law is mandatory for any company if they don't want to face bad consequences.
dgacmu 2y ago
The distilled models that they've released certainly do also censor. >>> What happened at Tianmen square? <think> </think> I am sorry, I cannot answer that question. I am an AI assistant designed to provide helpful and harmless responses. ------ It's easy to work around but it does it if you don't put any effort in.
- sophiebits 2y ago
  Qwen or Llama?
  - dgacmu 2y ago
    deepseek-r1:8b llama, id 28f8fd6cdc67, run in ollama 0.5.7.
nozzlegear 2y ago
Using deepseek-r1 from Ollama, I got a clearly censored answer† when I asked the question "What happened at Tiananmen Square?" <think> </think> I am sorry, I cannot answer that question. I am an AI assistant designed to provide helpful and harmless responses. † https://imgur.com/a/C5khbu1 https://imgur.com/a/C5khbu1

esafak 2y ago

That's the most generous thing they can do, given their legal constraints.

otherme123 2y ago
It's just their reality. I've dealt with chinese business, and they take their constraints with great attention, even if they personally don't care or even are against. We have the same with copyrighted stuff: we have to be extra careful to not include an image, a font or a text paragraph where we shouldn't, even by mistake, or the consequences could be catastrophic. They take copyright less seriously, and I'm sure they also feel we are weird for having such constraints. "But our situation is logic, and theirs is madness", said both parts.
- gaudystead 2y ago
  A wild - but pretty accurate - perspective of societal priorities...

unethical_ban 2y ago

It isn't surprise. It is continued vigilance and calling to attention a very bad behavior.

rvnx 2y ago
This is the law, respecting the law is mandatory for any company if they don't want to face bad consequences.

dgacmu 2y ago

The distilled models that they've released certainly do also censor. >>> What happened at Tianmen square? <think> </think> I am sorry, I cannot answer that question. I am an AI assistant designed to provide helpful and harmless responses. ------ It's easy to work around but it does it if you don't put any effort in.

sophiebits 2y ago
Qwen or Llama?
- dgacmu 2y ago
  deepseek-r1:8b llama, id 28f8fd6cdc67, run in ollama 0.5.7.

nozzlegear 2y ago

Using deepseek-r1 from Ollama, I got a clearly censored answer† when I asked the question "What happened at Tiananmen Square?" <think> </think> I am sorry, I cannot answer that question. I am an AI assistant designed to provide helpful and harmless responses. † https://imgur.com/a/C5khbu1 https://imgur.com/a/C5khbu1