I don't know about the US, for the first serious second languages courses in France happen sometimes at the very late primary school, or early secondary school.

I don't know about the US, for the first serious second languages courses in France happen sometimes at the very late primary school, or early secondary school. But you might want to teach very simple programming concepts before that. You end up using programming as "applied math" and "applied reading / writing". It's okay. Not all of them will learn programming. Just like it might be usefull to call some angles A in math class, before we learn enough greek to call them omega like all Physical Engineers. And if they get serious, yes, they will learn english. (Now that I think of it, I'm pretty old, and I grew up during the "Computer Science for all" years, so I had some very early english and some very early LOGO classes taught the same year. And I'm pretty sure the LOGO went first. Ooooh, memories.)