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seneca 2y ago
> You are nothing but slave labor This is an absurd and out of touch thing to say to a crowd mostly made up of highly paid engineers.
- WrongOnInternet 2y ago
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- pizzafeelsright 2y ago
  This is a very negative to look at employment in general: Whatever the skill - pushing rocks up a hill or pushing code into a repo - someone with power over you is taking half your waking day to generate disproportionate compensation. I personally see the alternative viewpoint which is I am able to provide for my entire family a life of non-work because I sacrifice 50% of what would be idle time without them. Ultimately you need something to do during your waking hours. I give 50% to the company and 50% to my family.
- hattmall 2y ago
  Historically the slaves of the ultrawealthy often lived much better lives than common free people.
- dennis_jeeves2 2y ago
  No it is not, just because one slave is paid more than another slave it does not make the former a less of a slave. But it's good that you think that way. Keeps the system going. We need more of you guys.
ergocoder 2y ago
I know what you mean, but a 500K software engineering job doesn't seem to match what you say...
- dumbledoren 2y ago
  Doesnt it? It requires a $180,000~ minimum to get by as a family of 4 including 2 kids in San Francisco according to statistics. Before taxes and unexpected expenses and other things. And VERY few people get that $500k. The rest get shafted by the system like others.
  - closeparen 2y ago
    The zero-sum competition for housing absorbs any wage level you throw at it. If you can fault the employer for something in this scenario, it is for locating the role in the Bay Area. Which they would tell you is a concession to the existing talent pool.
    - immibis 2y ago
      It's not about fault. It's about business. Corporations have no moral obligation to you and you have no moral obligation to corporations.
- BizarreByte 2y ago
  500k/y jobs are not common and as such the vast majority of us are not making that much.
ilrwbwrkhv 2y ago
I like how Richard Branson does things at Virgin. I have tried to adopt similar practices in mine. Basically we do our best to move you around to somewhere else, but you are never fired. It works really well for us.

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> You are nothing but slave labor This is an absurd and out of touch thing to say to a crowd mostly made up of highly paid engineers.

WrongOnInternet 2y ago
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pizzafeelsright 2y ago
This is a very negative to look at employment in general: Whatever the skill - pushing rocks up a hill or pushing code into a repo - someone with power over you is taking half your waking day to generate disproportionate compensation. I personally see the alternative viewpoint which is I am able to provide for my entire family a life of non-work because I sacrifice 50% of what would be idle time without them. Ultimately you need something to do during your waking hours. I give 50% to the company and 50% to my family.
hattmall 2y ago
Historically the slaves of the ultrawealthy often lived much better lives than common free people.
dennis_jeeves2 2y ago
No it is not, just because one slave is paid more than another slave it does not make the former a less of a slave. But it's good that you think that way. Keeps the system going. We need more of you guys.

ergocoder 2y ago

I know what you mean, but a 500K software engineering job doesn't seem to match what you say...

dumbledoren 2y ago
Doesnt it? It requires a $180,000~ minimum to get by as a family of 4 including 2 kids in San Francisco according to statistics. Before taxes and unexpected expenses and other things. And VERY few people get that $500k. The rest get shafted by the system like others.
- closeparen 2y ago
  The zero-sum competition for housing absorbs any wage level you throw at it. If you can fault the employer for something in this scenario, it is for locating the role in the Bay Area. Which they would tell you is a concession to the existing talent pool.
  - immibis 2y ago
    It's not about fault. It's about business. Corporations have no moral obligation to you and you have no moral obligation to corporations.
BizarreByte 2y ago
500k/y jobs are not common and as such the vast majority of us are not making that much.

ilrwbwrkhv 2y ago

I like how Richard Branson does things at Virgin. I have tried to adopt similar practices in mine. Basically we do our best to move you around to somewhere else, but you are never fired. It works really well for us.