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And all land is free-to-take since Feb 24th, 2022. Ultimately, international law has to be enforced by someone. Russia broke it many times before NS2 blew up,

And all land is free-to-take since Feb 24th, 2022. Ultimately, international law has to be enforced by someone. Russia broke it many times before NS2 blew up, it's not like they were holding up before.

pydry 2y ago
I find it weird how some people think that the country who illegally invaded Iraq on a whim enabled a genocide in Gaza could possibly be trusted to enforce international law on any other matter. There was a period when a law based international order theoretically could have been implemented by the US but since 1991 it's always just followed the principle of "fuck you my guns are bigger than yours" with some bullshit legalistic pretext.
- The_Colonel 2y ago
  You don't need to be a just actor to enforce international law if you're strong enough to pull it off and it aligns with your interests.
vkou 2y ago
If you think taking some Russian land in recompense is a good idea, go ahead, nobody is stopping you, there is no world police. Just let me know in advance, so that I can be on a one-way flight to Argentina, or some other southern nation.
- The_Colonel 2y ago
  You didn't understand my comment. My point is that the calculus for Russia isn't "is there a precedent for breaking this type of international law?", it's rather "can we get away with it?". NS2 didn't figure in the Russia's calculus when planning the undersea cable interruption.
guappa 2y ago
> Ultimately, international law has to be enforced by someone And who has more moral right to do that than the superpower that supports a genocide, invaded iraq for no actual reason (and the whistleblower who called it "suicided")? USA doesn't enforce "law", they enforce oppression and the interests of a few rich guys.
- The_Colonel 2y ago
  You don't need to be a moral actor to enforce a law. Even a murderer can, and should, stop another murderer from killing people.

pydry 2y ago

I find it weird how some people think that the country who illegally invaded Iraq on a whim enabled a genocide in Gaza could possibly be trusted to enforce international law on any other matter. There was a period when a law based international order theoretically could have been implemented by the US but since 1991 it's always just followed the principle of "fuck you my guns are bigger than yours" with some bullshit legalistic pretext.

The_Colonel 2y ago
You don't need to be a just actor to enforce international law if you're strong enough to pull it off and it aligns with your interests.

vkou 2y ago

If you think taking some Russian land in recompense is a good idea, go ahead, nobody is stopping you, there is no world police. Just let me know in advance, so that I can be on a one-way flight to Argentina, or some other southern nation.

The_Colonel 2y ago
You didn't understand my comment. My point is that the calculus for Russia isn't "is there a precedent for breaking this type of international law?", it's rather "can we get away with it?". NS2 didn't figure in the Russia's calculus when planning the undersea cable interruption.

guappa 2y ago

> Ultimately, international law has to be enforced by someone And who has more moral right to do that than the superpower that supports a genocide, invaded iraq for no actual reason (and the whistleblower who called it "suicided")? USA doesn't enforce "law", they enforce oppression and the interests of a few rich guys.

The_Colonel 2y ago
You don't need to be a moral actor to enforce a law. Even a murderer can, and should, stop another murderer from killing people.