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Germany has issued an arrest warrant for a Ukrainian man they're alleging did it. Meanwhile Swedish and Danish investigations were closed without any public ac

Germany has issued an arrest warrant for a Ukrainian man they're alleging did it. Meanwhile Swedish and Danish investigations were closed without any public accusations, which would be strange if they thought it was Russia but not strange if they thought it was Ukraine (or a NATO country.)

ajuc 2y ago
The guy who did it being Ukrainian in no way indicates Ukraine did it (as opposed to Russia). There's plenty of Ukrainians to choose from in Russia.
- guappa 2y ago
  Russia could just not send gas…
  - ajuc 2y ago
    They did stopped sending gas. And they would have to pay fines for that.
    - guappa 2y ago
      Then why blow up their own pipe? Fines? Lol, what could any country do if they don't pay the fines? Sanction them? They're already sanctioned.
      - ajuc 2y ago
        > Then why blow up their own pipe? To case maximum disruption in EU with rising gas prices. To avoid paying fines. To disrupt relations between Ukraine and Germany. There's many possible motivations. > Lol, what could any country do if they don't pay the fines? There's 300 billion dollars of russian money frozen on western accounts. International courts can allow Germany to take their money from there if Russia refuses to pay. Gasprom was clearly breeching the contract, and part of the contract is - which court can judge any disputes about it.
madspindel 2y ago
If you read this article (in Swedish): https://www.svd.se/a/Kna2ay/svenska-och-danska-fartyg-dar-fore-sprangningen https://www.svd.se/a/Kna2ay/svenska-och-danska-fartyg-dar-fo... Both Sweden and Denmark were protecting the area from Russian ships before the explosion. So they both knew about what was going to happen. If they planted the bombs, or Ukrainians? Not sure but I don't think it was the Russians. Nord Stream was very controversial in Sweden when it was built.

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Germany has issued an arrest warrant for a Ukrainian man they're alleging did it. Meanwhile Swedish and Danish investigations were closed without any public ac

by lupusreal 2y ago

ajuc 2y ago
The guy who did it being Ukrainian in no way indicates Ukraine did it (as opposed to Russia). There's plenty of Ukrainians to choose from in Russia.
- guappa 2y ago
  Russia could just not send gas…
  - ajuc 2y ago
    They did stopped sending gas. And they would have to pay fines for that.
    - guappa 2y ago
      Then why blow up their own pipe? Fines? Lol, what could any country do if they don't pay the fines? Sanction them? They're already sanctioned.
      - ajuc 2y ago
        > Then why blow up their own pipe? To case maximum disruption in EU with rising gas prices. To avoid paying fines. To disrupt relations between Ukraine and Germany. There's many possible motivations. > Lol, what could any country do if they don't pay the fines? There's 300 billion dollars of russian money frozen on western accounts. International courts can allow Germany to take their money from there if Russia refuses to pay. Gasprom was clearly breeching the contract, and part of the contract is - which court can judge any disputes about it.
madspindel 2y ago
If you read this article (in Swedish): https://www.svd.se/a/Kna2ay/svenska-och-danska-fartyg-dar-fore-sprangningen https://www.svd.se/a/Kna2ay/svenska-och-danska-fartyg-dar-fo... Both Sweden and Denmark were protecting the area from Russian ships before the explosion. So they both knew about what was going to happen. If they planted the bombs, or Ukrainians? Not sure but I don't think it was the Russians. Nord Stream was very controversial in Sweden when it was built.