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One thing that astonishes me, is that most people want to have a real team to be part of, contribute, give our best.. yet most jobs are just a game of lies and
by agumonkey 2y ago
One thing that astonishes me, is that most people want to have a real team to be part of, contribute, give our best.. yet most jobs are just a game of lies and end up being the opposite (there are some good bosses but the stats are low). It's like two needs that can never meet.
- bravetraveler 2y agoThe purpose of the system is what it does
- CharlieDigital 2y agoThe whole system of education is designed to channel this type of behavior from early childhood. Don't get me wrong, I'm a big proponent of high quality public education; it's a necessity. But the reason we have it is because businesses and corporations need workers.
- elzbardico 2y agoObedient workers.
- agumonkey 2y agoif I assume that the system is a neutral emergent phenomenon, i'd say it values "skills" required by businesses because these are strong indicator of what ensures survival of the group (we might all study cosmology and get hawking IQ level in the end, if we don't know how to grow food, we're toast) that said i'm curious if there are cities or groups who reduce the importance of material economy / business and promote real deep and beautiful learning
- CRConrad 2y ago> (we might all study cosmology and get hawking IQ level in the end, if we don't know how to grow food, we're toast) I first read that as "we might all study cosmetology ...", so my mind went to an altogether different space-based metaphor.
- ryandrake 2y agoYou can graduate from high school and leave your hometown, but the attitudes of high school remain in the office: the cliques, the cruelty, the in-groups and out-groups, the manipulation, the brown-nosing, the behind-the-back-shit-talking. The C students from your high school are now mid level managers above you and brought the mentality straight from there to the office.
- dennis_jeeves2 2y ago>The whole system of education is designed to channel this type of behavior from early childhood. So what exactly are the parent doing all along? (I think I know the answer - they are inexperienced/dysfunctional themselves)
- formerly_proven 2y agoI've been part of two really good teams, one went away because the company closed, the other because it was managed into smithereens. It honestly seemed like it didn't sit right with any level of management to have a bunch of at best average teams and then one very good team in the same org chart, they seemed to prefer to just have every team scrape along.
- agumonkey 2y agoMaybe society is submitted to a law of averages..
- BriggyDwiggs42 2y agoSystems built around profit seek efficiency, thus standardization.
- agumonkey 2y agoeven without the notion of profit, averages reduce risks and helps survival imo
- BriggyDwiggs42 2y agoNo that’s not it. Averages are easy to reason about top down. Averages are like manufactured parts; you can replace them when they break or slot them in where they’re needed. They’re easy to herd as a manager because they all work the same way. Before we had societies, this sort of reasoning wouldn’t have been very useful. A tribal chief doesn’t need uniformity, he needs to understand his members, all of whom he knows from birth, well enough to utilize their talents.
- dennis_jeeves2 2y agoTrue, one can build a society with no layoffs etc. but collectively we are just not smart enough to do it.
- dennis_jeeves2 2y ago>One thing that astonishes me, is that most people want to have a real team to be part of, contribute, give our best.. What astonishes me is that people fall for that BS.