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Interview with Andy Yen, CEO of Proton VPN
- est 2y agoidk but VPN is currently the #10 top free app in US apptore. https://apps.apple.com/us/charts/iphone https://apps.apple.com/us/charts/iphone
- simondanerd 2y agoI wouldn't think VPN Super Unlimited Proxy (https://www.mobilejump.mobi/ https://www.mobilejump.mobi/) is on-par with Proton VPN (https://protonvpn.com/ https://protonvpn.com/). Still interesting that it's #10 though.
- est 2y agodamn the HN title got changed. The original title was "VPN is now the resistance tool of choice in authoritarian regimes" I thought its pretty funny that another VPN app is listed as #10.
- blindriver 2y agoI don't think there is any way that any VPN company can convince me they aren't secretly run by the CIA or some other country's equivalent.
- radicaldreamer 2y agoHow about iCloud Private Relay?
- jiveturkey 2y agoor MPR (https://invisv.com/articles/relay https://invisv.com/articles/relay) in general.
- lordofgibbons 2y agoThe way I look at it is that my ISP is very open about collecting and selling "anonymized" data based on users' internet usage. On the other hand, a reputable VPN provider has everything to lose if word got out that they collect or sell information. The privacy calculus is: 100% chance vs some small chance.
- GoofballJones 2y agoLegit question: What can an ISP collect when most of the time I'm going to secure "https:" websites? I mean, they can only see the website I'm going to, but not what is going on there, right? Is just collecting where people are going that lucrative to sell?
- agieocean 2y agoThat + other data can be used to build a behavorial profile so it's not what your ISP is doing necessarily but what the people they sell the data to are doing with it (or the people they sell to)
- lordofgibbons 2y agoThere's what websites/apps you use, but also your behavior patterns. Are you a night owl? How often do you check some website or app. I'm sure there's a lot of other information they do gather based on the "metadata"
- eptcyka 2y ago
- jesperwe 2y agoNot even https://mullvad.net/en/why-mullvad-vpn https://mullvad.net/en/why-mullvad-vpn? (The only VPN I've heard of that allows you to pay anonymously with cash)
- ipaddr 2y agoIt's more most smaller VPN brands are surprisingly owned by one company Nord.. It's not all vpns it's just if you took 100 brands 90 of them are owned leased from Nord
- cedws 2y agoI don’t know about CIA, but something about Proton has always felt off.
- tucnak 2y agoThe fact that it's shown in all Hollywood films as "secure" email, and Navy Seals guys on youtube are recommending it in unison—should tell you all you need to know... Not to mention the DDoS protection racket the Israelis (coordinated with the BND) pulled on Proton for traffic analysis. See their own statement on the matter: https://proton.me/support/protonmail-israel-radware https://proton.me/support/protonmail-israel-radware DE-CIX is a known SIGINT collection site.
- fransje26 2y agoWell, it wouldn't be the first encryption-related Swiss company run by the CIA. :-) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto_AG https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto_AG
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- RayVR 2y agoI didn’t read this article in-depth. What are you referring to specifically?
- philwelch 2y agoI did read the article in depth and I have the same question. Aside from wanting to let people access the complete uncensored internet even when their government would prefer them not to, which seems to be their entire mission in the first place.
- mossTechnician 2y agoHe wrote a Twitter post praising Trump's administration and criticizing Democrats[0], then doubled down on the official Proton account[1]. Then he backpedaled, saying the official account statements were an accident[2]. [0] https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1i1zjgn/so_that_happened/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1i1zjgn/so_that... [1] https://archive.ph/2025.01.15-162500/https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1i1zjgn/so_that_happened/m7a91fs/ https://archive.ph/2025.01.15-162500/https://www.reddit.com/... [2] https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1i2nz9v/comment/m7g4bo6/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1i2nz9v/comment...
- wraptile 2y agoWas hoping this would cover the latest Twitter blunder of Andy Yen endorsing Trump's political picks and saying "republicans are there for small business now" which had a major blow back. Some context on reddit: https://old.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1i2nz9v/on_politics_and_proton_a_message_from_andy/ https://old.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1i2nz9v/on_poli...
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- unbrice 2y agoTo the best of my knowledge he endorsed specific behavior about specific policies, not "Trump's political picks". I wish topics vaguely adjacent to US politics could be discussed in less divisive and polarized ways.
- input_sh 2y agoThe tweet in question literally starts with "Great pick by @realDonaldTrump".
- Temporary_31337 2y agoI think that’s the parents point one can endorse specific policies from a person without necessarily endorsing everything else. Btw that’s the beauty of democracy- people made their choices and can still voice their concerns even after the election. Contrast that with Venezuela, China or Russia mentioned in the article.
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- grajaganDev 2y agoThis a very naive take. The promised retribution against people who voiced concerns (ie, the Jan 6 Committee) is just beginning.
- devwastaken 2y agoask them why they make deals with swiss government and bend to their political whims. Proton can move anywhere else and not be at the mercy of secret orders and backroom deals. but they seem very content on selling a product that is falsely advertised.
- Febra33 2y agoI've already switched to Tuta since it's a company that aligns with my own values a lot more. Cancelled my proton subscription.