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> There are enough Wayland whiners that, by now, they could've banded together and started maintaining / improving X and (if their complaints and theories were
by lmm 2y ago
> There are enough Wayland whiners that, by now, they could've banded together and started maintaining / improving X and (if their complaints and theories were correct) left Wayland behind.
They already have. X is already more full-featured and stable than Wayland (yes it is missing certain niche features that Wayland has). Sometimes the most important thing you can do with a piece of software is not screw around with it.
- braiamp 2y agoAnd yet, X is as flawed as it can be. There's a problem with global shortcuts, that Xorg only fires an event on keyup/key release, rather than on first match on keypress. That is a protocol limitation, and fixing it means breaking a bunch of stuff. The complains about wayland are of that nature, but at least they are fixable.
- goosedragons 2y agoAre they fixable? One of my beefs with Wayland is that every compositor handles things differently. How GNOME's does some setting is different from how KDE's is different from Sway's. There's no guarantee they've even implemented the setting either. In X11 you can always globally configure something for any WM the same way. Wayland by design you can't. It's not fixable. I think it was a really poor decision to do a protocol and just made an OS where things are often too fragmented even more fragmented.
- lmm 2y ago> The complains about wayland are of that nature, but at least they are fixable. Eh maybe. Ultimately you can never be sure something is possible without doing it. I'm pragmatic here, if and when Wayland offers me a better experience than X then I'll use it. I just resent distros etc. pushing me towards it when it's currently a downgrade.