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That statement was made when he wanted a higher budget. You can find similar statements in the US from interest groups: https://www.heritage.org/defense/commen

That statement was made when he wanted a higher budget. You can find similar statements in the US from interest groups: https://www.heritage.org/defense/commentary/2024-the-us-military-weakand-should-scare-you https://www.heritage.org/defense/commentary/2024-the-us-mili... Germany has a higher budget than Poland. Apparently Poland is able to keep 1000 tanks operational. Germany/von der Leyen made the mistake to use McKinsey as consultants for the army. McKinsey can leave Germany, too.

rasz 2y ago
2015 'German Soldiers Used Broomsticks Instead of Guns During NATO Exercise' https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/natosource/german-soldiers-used-broomsticks-instead-of-guns-during-nato-exercise/ https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/natosource/german-sold... 2020 'during a recent military exercise all 18 Pumas deployed suffered technical failures' https://thehill.com/homenews/ap/ap-technology/ap-german-military-swaps-apcs-for-nato-force-after-breakdowns/ https://thehill.com/homenews/ap/ap-technology/ap-german-mili...
- jiggawatts 2y ago
  They have something like 2,500 tanks. The mechanical failure rate of heavy armoured vehicles is very high, of all models, in all militaries. Look up the maintenance hours per flight hour of a fighter jet!
  - rasz 2y ago
    That exactly what I thought in 2022, but alas Germany had around 2000 tanks in early nineties. Nowadays its tens of the 2A8 variant and under 300 other models https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_modern_equipment_of_the_German_Army#Main_Battle_tanks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_modern_equipment_of_th... There is high failure rate and there is just broken but nobody noticed because we never use them despite owning 350 and ordering next 200 batch. https://www.dw.com/en/puma-tanks-unusable-is-germanys-military-unfit-for-action/a-63955452 https://www.dw.com/en/puma-tanks-unusable-is-germanys-milita...
lifestyleguru 2y ago
> Apparently Poland is able to keep 1000 tanks operational. Polish army is nepotist institution with budget being spent on things like 40 years old retirees. Any equipment numbers reported by them to be multiplied by 0.6 or even 0.4.
Detrytus 2y ago
> Apparently Poland is able to keep 1000 tanks operational. We did have close to 750 operational tanks before 2022, but I think around 300 of them were given to Ukraine when the war started. We are now slowly replacing them with M1 Abrams and Korean's K2.

rasz 2y ago

2015 'German Soldiers Used Broomsticks Instead of Guns During NATO Exercise' https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/natosource/german-soldiers-used-broomsticks-instead-of-guns-during-nato-exercise/ https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/natosource/german-sold... 2020 'during a recent military exercise all 18 Pumas deployed suffered technical failures' https://thehill.com/homenews/ap/ap-technology/ap-german-military-swaps-apcs-for-nato-force-after-breakdowns/ https://thehill.com/homenews/ap/ap-technology/ap-german-mili...

jiggawatts 2y ago
They have something like 2,500 tanks. The mechanical failure rate of heavy armoured vehicles is very high, of all models, in all militaries. Look up the maintenance hours per flight hour of a fighter jet!
- rasz 2y ago
  That exactly what I thought in 2022, but alas Germany had around 2000 tanks in early nineties. Nowadays its tens of the 2A8 variant and under 300 other models https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_modern_equipment_of_the_German_Army#Main_Battle_tanks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_modern_equipment_of_th... There is high failure rate and there is just broken but nobody noticed because we never use them despite owning 350 and ordering next 200 batch. https://www.dw.com/en/puma-tanks-unusable-is-germanys-military-unfit-for-action/a-63955452 https://www.dw.com/en/puma-tanks-unusable-is-germanys-milita...

lifestyleguru 2y ago

> Apparently Poland is able to keep 1000 tanks operational. Polish army is nepotist institution with budget being spent on things like 40 years old retirees. Any equipment numbers reported by them to be multiplied by 0.6 or even 0.4.

Detrytus 2y ago

> Apparently Poland is able to keep 1000 tanks operational. We did have close to 750 operational tanks before 2022, but I think around 300 of them were given to Ukraine when the war started. We are now slowly replacing them with M1 Abrams and Korean's K2.