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Is this a better heroku? My experience is that anything outside of the standard process for deploying apps is actively frowned upon by everyone except startups

by pm90 2y ago

Is this a better heroku? My experience is that anything outside of the standard process for deploying apps is actively frowned upon by everyone except startups that need to move extremely quickly to create PoCs. So unless this platform is much much cheaper than the public clouds it seems like a limited market.

gkoberger 2y ago
Yes, and I say this as someone who used Heroku for over a decade and recently switched to Render. The Heroku platform has recently gone downhill. There’s a ton of downtime, minimal improvements, no communication via their status page, and incredibly bad support. They once shut off GitHub deploys for months with no explanation, because of a security incident they seemingly couldn’t fix… we had no way to deploy! Heroku was amazing, but it’s dying rapidly. Render isn’t a huge departure from Heroku, but it’s solid and the team is very responsive.
- latchkey 2y ago
  If this tells you anything, the CEO of Heroku (who was ex AWS), just left for Nvidia. I asked him directly before he left if he was interested in GPU compute and his only answer was basically... "only what it is available on AWS"... which is where all their stuff is hosted now. https://techcrunch.com/2024/11/14/heroku-ceo-bob-wise-departs/ https://techcrunch.com/2024/11/14/heroku-ceo-bob-wise-depart...
  - gkoberger 2y ago
    Oh thank god. I had the displeasure of meeting with him once, and it was so bad that when we hung up I had our team to start planning a migration off of Heroku. The crux of the issue was that he told me that he philosophically didn’t believe Heroku should put up status notifications about downtime or performance issues until AFTER they fully understood the problem and had a fix. (My theory was actually that no engineers worked there and they didn’t have on-call rotation anymore)
    - latchkey 2y ago
      Wow, only one open job req and I can't figure out who is going to replace Bob. Seems like the platform is dead. https://salesforce.wd12.myworkdayjobs.com/en-US/Heroku https://salesforce.wd12.myworkdayjobs.com/en-US/Heroku
jacobsenscott 2y ago
As a long time heroku user, I'll never go back to heroku. They've been working on wild card ssl for years and can't get it done. I finally hacked it into our app with about 100 lines of ruby. They are literally doing nothing but keeping the lights on until the last customer drops off.

by pm90 2y ago

gkoberger 2y ago

Yes, and I say this as someone who used Heroku for over a decade and recently switched to Render. The Heroku platform has recently gone downhill. There’s a ton of downtime, minimal improvements, no communication via their status page, and incredibly bad support. They once shut off GitHub deploys for months with no explanation, because of a security incident they seemingly couldn’t fix… we had no way to deploy! Heroku was amazing, but it’s dying rapidly. Render isn’t a huge departure from Heroku, but it’s solid and the team is very responsive.

latchkey 2y ago
If this tells you anything, the CEO of Heroku (who was ex AWS), just left for Nvidia. I asked him directly before he left if he was interested in GPU compute and his only answer was basically... "only what it is available on AWS"... which is where all their stuff is hosted now. https://techcrunch.com/2024/11/14/heroku-ceo-bob-wise-departs/ https://techcrunch.com/2024/11/14/heroku-ceo-bob-wise-depart...
- gkoberger 2y ago
  Oh thank god. I had the displeasure of meeting with him once, and it was so bad that when we hung up I had our team to start planning a migration off of Heroku. The crux of the issue was that he told me that he philosophically didn’t believe Heroku should put up status notifications about downtime or performance issues until AFTER they fully understood the problem and had a fix. (My theory was actually that no engineers worked there and they didn’t have on-call rotation anymore)
  - latchkey 2y ago
    Wow, only one open job req and I can't figure out who is going to replace Bob. Seems like the platform is dead. https://salesforce.wd12.myworkdayjobs.com/en-US/Heroku https://salesforce.wd12.myworkdayjobs.com/en-US/Heroku

jacobsenscott 2y ago

As a long time heroku user, I'll never go back to heroku. They've been working on wild card ssl for years and can't get it done. I finally hacked it into our app with about 100 lines of ruby. They are literally doing nothing but keeping the lights on until the last customer drops off.