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Interestingly enough, the French do it the other way around, and start counting from the final year (they also start at 0 so it's offset by one). That's arguab

Interestingly enough, the French do it the other way around, and start counting from the final year (they also start at 0 so it's offset by one). That's arguably a better system since you can keep adding earlier and earlier years (mandatory school starting age has drifted from 11 to 6 to 3 over the years) while keeping everything consistent. Unfortunately they messed it up in 1959 by renaming 12th to 7th and giving matching names to the new 13th/14th.

olivierduval 2y ago
Actually, it's more complex than this in France. There is 5 systems: - depending of the Ministry of Eduction : - for toddlers : maternelle (3-6 yo) - Primary : CP (6 yo, primary), CE1 (elementary 1), CE2, CM1 (middle 1), CM2 - Secondary : - College (not the US one!) : 6th (~11 yo), 5th, 4th, 3th (with exam at the end) - Lycée : 2nd (~15 yo), 1st, Terminal (with 'Baccalauréat' exam at the end) then depending of Ministry of Research : University or Post BAC schools However, I think that in some other french-talking countries (Belgium, Swissland) they did it simpler
- mgaunard 2y ago
  Maternelle years also have names: PSM, MSM, GSM. GSM, PS, CE1, CE2, CM1, CM2 used to be called 12th to 7th, as I said. Your primary classification is incorrect -- maternelle is part of primary. Non-maternelle primary is called elementary.
- eloisant 2y ago
  The P in CP doesn't stand for "primary" but for "preparatory"
- makapuf 2y ago
  That's for classic education (General, when you want to make longer studies), there are also professional or technical Lycée)
Fnoord 2y ago
French and Brits do a lot of things the other way around, like imperial system, ATON/NATO, driving on the other side of the road. Just mentioned the age bracket. Kids who are younger or older are outliers.
- marcosscriven 2y ago
  The French for NATO is completely reversed: OTAN
fhars 2y ago
Nothing compared to the order I went through in Germany: 1, 2, 3, 4 (elementary school until here), then VI (read in Latin, sexta), V (quinta), IV (quarta), lower III (tertia), upper III, lower II (secunda), 11, 1st semester, 2nd semester, 3rd semester, 4th semester.
- ajmurmann 2y ago
  Does anyone still use these Latin terms? When I went to school in the 90s and early 00s we just counted from 1st to 12 and university just was it's own thing and how many semesters you were in didn't matter that much because there was no class structure.

olivierduval 2y ago

Actually, it's more complex than this in France. There is 5 systems: - depending of the Ministry of Eduction : - for toddlers : maternelle (3-6 yo) - Primary : CP (6 yo, primary), CE1 (elementary 1), CE2, CM1 (middle 1), CM2 - Secondary : - College (not the US one!) : 6th (~11 yo), 5th, 4th, 3th (with exam at the end) - Lycée : 2nd (~15 yo), 1st, Terminal (with 'Baccalauréat' exam at the end) then depending of Ministry of Research : University or Post BAC schools However, I think that in some other french-talking countries (Belgium, Swissland) they did it simpler

mgaunard 2y ago
Maternelle years also have names: PSM, MSM, GSM. GSM, PS, CE1, CE2, CM1, CM2 used to be called 12th to 7th, as I said. Your primary classification is incorrect -- maternelle is part of primary. Non-maternelle primary is called elementary.
eloisant 2y ago
The P in CP doesn't stand for "primary" but for "preparatory"
makapuf 2y ago
That's for classic education (General, when you want to make longer studies), there are also professional or technical Lycée)

Fnoord 2y ago

French and Brits do a lot of things the other way around, like imperial system, ATON/NATO, driving on the other side of the road. Just mentioned the age bracket. Kids who are younger or older are outliers.

marcosscriven 2y ago
The French for NATO is completely reversed: OTAN

fhars 2y ago

Nothing compared to the order I went through in Germany: 1, 2, 3, 4 (elementary school until here), then VI (read in Latin, sexta), V (quinta), IV (quarta), lower III (tertia), upper III, lower II (secunda), 11, 1st semester, 2nd semester, 3rd semester, 4th semester.

ajmurmann 2y ago
Does anyone still use these Latin terms? When I went to school in the 90s and early 00s we just counted from 1st to 12 and university just was it's own thing and how many semesters you were in didn't matter that much because there was no class structure.