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“Now newspapers in those countries are writing about the decadent war mongering Americans I'd like to just see one of those countries that is gloating over the

“Now newspapers in those countries are writing about the decadent war mongering Americans I'd like to just see one of those countries that is gloating over the erosion of the United States Dollar build its own airplanes Come on, let's hear it Does any other country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing jumbo jet The Lockheed Tri-star or the Douglas-10? If so, why don't they fly them?” I found this so-called song hosted on the “Vietnam War Song Project” YT account. Yeah, why were people against the Vietnam War? When America had planes? Ridiculous priorities.

pjc50 2y ago
> Does any other country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing jumbo jet Guess somebody hasn't heard of Airbus. Or, these days, Embraer. If other countries didn't have competitive aircraft the US wouldn't feel the need for tariffs.
- reaperducer 2y ago
  Guess somebody hasn't heard of Airbus This was written and published before Airbus' first plane was in the air, and decades before Embraer had a large passenger jet. It also specifically states "jumbo jet." Does Embraer even have a jumbo today? The largest one listed on Wikipedia is 124 passengers, and that only came out in 2004.
  - pjc50 2y ago
    Date check: https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/brent-baker/2014/07/04/stirring-1973-americans-radio-commentary-i-am-one-canadian-who https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/brent-baker/2014/07/04/... So that was 1973, in between the first test flight and entry into service of the A300. I might argue that one reason Americans get a lot of stick from the rest of the world is exactly this kind of "America number one" stuff.
reaperducer 2y ago
I found this so-called song hosted on the “Vietnam War Song Project” YT account. Yeah, why were people against the Vietnam War? When America had planes? Ridiculous priorities. This was not about the Vietnam war. Nor was it written by an American.
- keybored 2y ago
  When it was released, the part about “war-mongering Americans”, and the apparent association with the war (was Ride of the Valkyries about the Vietnam War?). Do you understand the concept of associations? > Nor was it written by an American. And who said it was?
  - reaperducer 2y ago
    When it was released, the part about “war-mongering Americans”, and the apparent association with the war (was Ride of the Valkyries about the Vietnam War?). The author, himself, said it was not about the Vietnam War. You can wish as hard as you want, but it doesn't change the facts. I hate to break it to you, but America and the rest of the world had been through a lot more than just the Vietnam War. You just insist on making that association, even though the lyrics explicitly talk about other crises.
    - keybored 2y ago
      Authorial intent only goes so far. You release a song during the tail-end of the Vietnam War and decry the fact that people are decrying the “war mongering” Americans? Well that’s the obvious association. But authorial intent can definitely be pinned on juxtaposing whatever “war mongering” with apparently making great planes. I don’t know what kind of harebrained idea that was. > I hate to break it to you, but America and the rest of the world had been through a lot more than just the Vietnam War. You hate to break it to me? That’s a bizarre statement. I’m not jilted by anyone over that war. And the Vietnam War, again, was happening when the commentary was released and when the spoken-word song was released. Obvious associations. Did Springsteen mean rah-rah America with his Born in the USA? No but it was still used for that purpose by some people.

pjc50 2y ago

> Does any other country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing jumbo jet Guess somebody hasn't heard of Airbus. Or, these days, Embraer. If other countries didn't have competitive aircraft the US wouldn't feel the need for tariffs.

reaperducer 2y ago
Guess somebody hasn't heard of Airbus This was written and published before Airbus' first plane was in the air, and decades before Embraer had a large passenger jet. It also specifically states "jumbo jet." Does Embraer even have a jumbo today? The largest one listed on Wikipedia is 124 passengers, and that only came out in 2004.
- pjc50 2y ago
  Date check: https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/brent-baker/2014/07/04/stirring-1973-americans-radio-commentary-i-am-one-canadian-who https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/brent-baker/2014/07/04/... So that was 1973, in between the first test flight and entry into service of the A300. I might argue that one reason Americans get a lot of stick from the rest of the world is exactly this kind of "America number one" stuff.

reaperducer 2y ago

I found this so-called song hosted on the “Vietnam War Song Project” YT account. Yeah, why were people against the Vietnam War? When America had planes? Ridiculous priorities. This was not about the Vietnam war. Nor was it written by an American.

keybored 2y ago
When it was released, the part about “war-mongering Americans”, and the apparent association with the war (was Ride of the Valkyries about the Vietnam War?). Do you understand the concept of associations? > Nor was it written by an American. And who said it was?
- reaperducer 2y ago
  When it was released, the part about “war-mongering Americans”, and the apparent association with the war (was Ride of the Valkyries about the Vietnam War?). The author, himself, said it was not about the Vietnam War. You can wish as hard as you want, but it doesn't change the facts. I hate to break it to you, but America and the rest of the world had been through a lot more than just the Vietnam War. You just insist on making that association, even though the lyrics explicitly talk about other crises.
  - keybored 2y ago
    Authorial intent only goes so far. You release a song during the tail-end of the Vietnam War and decry the fact that people are decrying the “war mongering” Americans? Well that’s the obvious association. But authorial intent can definitely be pinned on juxtaposing whatever “war mongering” with apparently making great planes. I don’t know what kind of harebrained idea that was. > I hate to break it to you, but America and the rest of the world had been through a lot more than just the Vietnam War. You hate to break it to me? That’s a bizarre statement. I’m not jilted by anyone over that war. And the Vietnam War, again, was happening when the commentary was released and when the spoken-word song was released. Obvious associations. Did Springsteen mean rah-rah America with his Born in the USA? No but it was still used for that purpose by some people.