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What’s most disturbing and highly irresponsible about comments like that and all of the reporting on this development is that there’s almost zero acknowledgemen
by miguelazo 2y ago
What’s most disturbing and highly irresponsible about comments like that and all of the reporting on this development is that there’s almost zero acknowledgement that the lab in question was being funded by the US government and much of the Gain of Function research was being directed by a US nonprofit with ties to the US government.
- oneshtein 2y agoThere is nothing wrong with that. You should worry about those, who do such experiments secretly. (Russians)
- miguelazo 2y agoThere are plenty of experiments done secretly by Americans. You think everything is published in some nice little NIH budget explainer? Ever heard of Fort Detrick?
- macns 2y agoSources for this? Deserves it's own post if data are there to back it up
- mike_hearn 2y agoIt's been widely known for years. Search for EcoHealth Alliance and Peter Daszack if you want to learn more. Briefly, under Obama gain of function research was banned for a while. During this time Fauci signed off on illegal grants to fund GoF research, funnelled through a British NGO in order to evade detection and the ban. The NGO didn't do the research themselves, they then sent the money to Wuhan to fund experiments done there. Thus Fauci was using US money to do banned research, which he then lied about under oath to Congress. It's for this sort of reason that he's now been pardoned by Biden, as otherwise he would likely have been prosecuted. Whether you can actually retroactively pardon someone for any/all crimes without actually specifying what for and without that person actually having been found guilty is a bit unclear, though.
- rixed 2y agoSeriously, wouldn't have it been appropriate to do just the minimalistic wikipedia search before contributing to this thread? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wuhan_Institute_of_Virology https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wuhan_Institute_of_Virology This lab was an international cooperation, from back in the days where there were such things.
- greasegum 2y agoI think people are missing one very sympathizable effect of this joint research, that it prevents either country from gaining an offensive edge from dual-use research that could be used for bio-weapons. You could argue that this has the benefit of preventing a bio-weapons arms race. Vertiginous to think about the layers of unknowns.