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I think you're both right, Look here: 100 men and 100 women in their thirties in a small town. The men don't work out and don't study and learn new things. Th

I think you're both right, Look here: 100 men and 100 women in their thirties in a small town. The men don't work out and don't study and learn new things. Then a day they all start working out at the gym, cut their hair properly and spend time learning new things, getting more well paid remote jobs. This will increase the number of relationships in that small town! (I think) Before, some of the women were singles because they couldn't find any attractive men. After, they had many attractive men to choose between, although 50% of the men are still below average among the men in that town. But the men as a group, improved compared to the women in the town.

anal_reactor 2y ago
> This will increase the number of relationships in that small town! (I think) The problem is, in real life we're observing exactly the opposite. The most developed societies where people are the most educated, self-aware, hygienic, etc. are also the societies where loneliness is on the rise. I'd like to point to an analogy: some years ago, getting a college degree was sure way to secure a successful career. Many people rushed to get themselves educated. Did all these people get the jobs they expected? No, simply the bar went up, and now you need a Master's degree to flip burgers
- cutemonster 2y ago
  That's interesting. Turns out that more women than men go to university: "Nationwide, women comprised 58% of all college students in 2020, up from 56.6% six years earlier" https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeltnietzel/2024/08/07/women-continue-to-outpace-men-in-college-enrollment-and-graduation/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeltnietzel/2024/08/07/wome... (That's a big difference, almost 50% more women) The men who didn't go to university, will to these women tend to look less attractive, which should mean: fewer relationships forming. It's the opposite to my 100 men and women example: The women started learning new things and making more money, not the men o.O

anal_reactor 2y ago

> This will increase the number of relationships in that small town! (I think) The problem is, in real life we're observing exactly the opposite. The most developed societies where people are the most educated, self-aware, hygienic, etc. are also the societies where loneliness is on the rise. I'd like to point to an analogy: some years ago, getting a college degree was sure way to secure a successful career. Many people rushed to get themselves educated. Did all these people get the jobs they expected? No, simply the bar went up, and now you need a Master's degree to flip burgers

cutemonster 2y ago
That's interesting. Turns out that more women than men go to university: "Nationwide, women comprised 58% of all college students in 2020, up from 56.6% six years earlier" https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeltnietzel/2024/08/07/women-continue-to-outpace-men-in-college-enrollment-and-graduation/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeltnietzel/2024/08/07/wome... (That's a big difference, almost 50% more women) The men who didn't go to university, will to these women tend to look less attractive, which should mean: fewer relationships forming. It's the opposite to my 100 men and women example: The women started learning new things and making more money, not the men o.O