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There are a few things to consider that I’ll add, which further bolster the idea that China has systematically covered up up a lab leak that caused the COVID-19
by blackeyeblitzar 2y ago
There are a few things to consider that I’ll add, which further bolster the idea that China has systematically covered up up a lab leak that caused the COVID-19 pandemic:
1. Coronaviruses are hard to contain, even if you have good practices. For example, the earlier SARS outbreak (from the early 2000s) had several documented lab leaks, including multiple within China (https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7096887/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7096887/).
2. The US state department was aware that China was conducting dangerous research on coronaviruses on poorly managed labs a few years before the COVID-19 pandemic (https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/03/08/josh-rogin-chaos-under-heaven-wuhan-lab-book-excerpt-474322 https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/03/08/josh-rogin...).
3. The WHO got completely manipulated by China, either willingly or just due to their incompetence. For example, it is well documented now that the WHO publicly praised the Chinese government but privately was concerned and frustrated by the lack of transparency and sharing of vital information, including blocking visits to Wuhan (https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/how-china-blocked-who-chinese-scientists-early-coronavirus-outbreak-n1222246 https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/how-china-blocked...).
4. The NIAID (Fauci’s agency, under NIH) conducted gain of function research through a third party, EcoHealth Alliance. The grants are all public and document gain of function research, which was illegal since President Obama had banned it through an executive order. There was evidence that the NIH helped EcoHealth craft their grant language in a way to avoid oversight processes that would have blocked the grant (https://theintercept.com/2021/11/03/coronavirus-research-ecohealth-nih-emails/ https://theintercept.com/2021/11/03/coronavirus-research-eco...). Note that the president of EcoHealth, Peter Daszak, is a listed author on gain of function publications from the Wuhan Institute of Virology. After years of trying to bury this, the Biden administration finally blocked funding to EcoHealth in 2024 (https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/16/health/us-government-suspends-fundingforvirus-research-group-at-center-of-covid-19-origin-controversy/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/16/health/us-government-suspends...).
5. China only allowed a WHO visit over a year after they knew of the COVID-19 outbreak, in early 2021. They only allowed specific people to participate in the investigation, and the only person allowed from the US, was the same Peter Daszak of EcoHealth Alliance who participated in the research at Wuhan Institute of Virology (https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/03/asia/wuhan-coronavirus-who-bat-lab-intl-hnk/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/03/asia/wuhan-coronavirus-who-ba...).
- cyberax 2y ago> President Obama had banned it through an executive order. Can you provide a link to the executive order? It sounds seriously strange.
- blackeyeblitzar 2y agoI can’t find the actual order but a search turns up many articles about it. Here’s one: https://www.nature.com/articles/514411a https://www.nature.com/articles/514411a
- cyberax 2y ago> The US government surprised many researchers on 17 October when it announced that it will temporarily stop funding new research that makes certain viruses more deadly or transmissible. So it's not clear what the actual order entails and how temporary it was. And the whole advisory language ("asked scientists") seems to be kinda distinct from "banned". > The grants are all public and document gain of function research, which was illegal since President Obama had banned it through an executive order. In general, these kinds of conspiracy theories just collapse when you start pulling the threads.
- blackeyeblitzar 2y ago[flagged]
- cyberax 2y agoI mean, it's your claim, not mine. I looked at the first part of the whole narrative that seemed out-of-place and it turned out to be not quite as claimed. > which Fauci helped EcoHealth avoid But had he? What exactly the order entailed in the first place?
- morepedantic 2y ago>In general, these kinds of conspiracy theories just collapse when you start pulling the threads. You think it's a conspiracy theory that Obama banned GoF research? OK, it was through an OSTP directive working with the NIH rather than an EO, but that's splitting hairs. It also wasn't banned, but only subject to a higher degree of scrutiny. https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/blog/2014/10/17/doing-diligence-assess-risks-and-benefits-life-sciences-gain-function-research https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/blog/2014/10/17/doing-d...