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Great as long as you’re not interested in Tiananmen Square or the Uighurs.
by brookst 2y ago
Great as long as you’re not interested in Tiananmen Square or the Uighurs.
- buyucu 2y agoI just tried asking ChatGPT how many civilians Israel murdered in Gaza. It didn't answer.
- whimsicalism 2y agoamerican models have their own bugbears like around evolution and intellectual property
- miohtama 2y agoFor sensitive topics, it is good that we canknow cross ask Grok, DeepSeek and ChatGPT to avoid any kind of biases or no-reply answers.
- lurking_swe 2y agoi can’t think of a single commercial use case, outside of education, where that’s even relevant. But i agree it’s messed up from an ethical / moral perspective.
- brookst 2y agoWell those are the overt political biases. Would you trust DeepSeek to advise on negotiating with a Chinese business? I’m no xenophobe, but seeing the internal reasoning of DeepSeek explicitly planning to ensure alignment with the government give me pause.
- lurking_swe 2y agoi wouldn’t use AI for negotiating with a business period. I’d hire a professional human that has real hands on experience working with chinese businesses? seems like a weird thing to use AI for, regardless of who created the model.
- brookst 2y agoInteresting. I want my AI tools to be suitable for any kind of brainstorming or iteration. But yeah if you’re scoping your uses to things where you’re sure a government-controlled LLM won’t bias results, it should be fine.
- lurking_swe 2y agoYeah i can definitely see some situations where i’d be wary, i agree with you. Wouldn’t impact my work but i see the concern. I use LLM’s for technical solution brainstorming, rubber-ducking technical problems, and learning (software languages, devops, software design, etc.) Your mileage will vary of course!
- thomas34298 2y agoHave you even tried it out locally and asked about those things?
- brookst 2y agohttps://sherwood.news/tech/a-free-powerful-chinese-ai-model-just-dropped-but-dont-ask-it-about/ https://sherwood.news/tech/a-free-powerful-chinese-ai-model-...
- whimsicalism 2y agoso, no
- slt2021 2y agotry asking US models about the influence of Israeli diaspora on funding genocide in Gaza then come back
- brookst 2y agoWhich American models? Are you suggesting the US government exercises control over US LLM models the way the CCP controls DeepSeek outputs?
- buyucu 2y agoOne of Meta's policy officials (Jordana Cutler) is a former Israeli government official who was censoring anti-genocide content online. American models are full of censorship. Just different stuff.
- whimsicalism 2y agoi think both American and Chinese model censorship is done by private actors out of fear of external repercussion, not because it is explicitly mandated to them
- mmoskal 2y agoCCP requires models to follow "socialist values". https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2024/07/18/chinese-regulators-begin-testing-genai-models-on-socialist-values.html https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2024/07/18/chinese-regulators-begin...
- mmoskal 2y agoLuckily in the US the govt can do no such things due to the 1st amendment, so it only takes a relevant billionaire to get a model with different political views.
- sunaookami 2y agoAnd the EU requires models to follow "democractic liberal values" according to their AI act. Other side of the same coin.
- semicolon_storm 2y agoThe censorship is not present in the distilled models which you can run locally