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I'm excited. continue to think in the long run, I'm more excited by fedi than AT protocol
by crimsoneer 2y ago
I'm excited. continue to think in the long run, I'm more excited by fedi than AT protocol
- enos_feedler 2y agoWhat makes you more excited about Fedi vs. AT protocol?
- nikodunk 2y agoYou can host your own instance on a single server with Fedi, but need 3+ separate ones to host your own on AT protocol and it’s more complex.
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- jadbox 2y agoI don't know much about AT protocol, but afaik, it technically could work as fedi if everyone ran their own servers. Right?
- jeromegv 2y agoDoesn’t seem AT is advanced enough yet because nobody else but Bluesky is able to run a server.
- mpalmer 2y agoOr- fedi's design encourages more self-hosting because it's so easy and straightforward. With AT, yes it's harder to run your own instance but there's also less reason to: personalized moderation/feeds are just built in.
- fabrice_d 2y agoNo, because there is no message passing in ATProto. So if you want eg. to know how many likes one of your posts has, you need to see the whole network aggregated through the firehose. No-one will push that "I like your post" message to your PDS.
- captainbland 2y agoI've never been clear on why we should care about AT protocol. It's a VC funded effort which should immediately be suspicious for anyone wanting to build federated platforms.
- diggan 2y agoI'm excited about ATProto and I'm also suspicious, because they could eventually try to turn away from federation. Although so far, they seem to be moving in the other way, as they keep developing and launching more stuff that makes the services more decentralized, not less. I think it's healthy to be skeptical and suspicious about it, I am too. But I won't let that stop me from at least playing around with it and see where they go. Maybe one day they take the wrong turn, maybe not. They haven't so far, and I tend to wait to judge stuff based on what has happened rather than what could happen in the future.
- arccy 2y agoif what you care about is "federated platforms", you might not care much (or maybe you might realize ActivityPub scaling is problematic). many other people care more about "usable (right now) platforms".
- aklemm 2y agoThe lack of handling identity is a showstopper for ActivityPub. I cannot for the life of me figure out why they didn’t go the extra and make identity portable.
- diggan 2y agoCouldn't you, in theory, provide a service using ActivityPub + DID to kind of make this happen today? It's just that the current implementations (Mastodon et al) didn't implement things that way. I think I've read people arguing that here on HN at least.
- aklemm 2y agoI would love to read more about this idea.