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"The raids are taking place in deep blue cities in blue states. These are places that voted heavily against Trump." It's taking place in 'sanctuary cities' whe

"The raids are taking place in deep blue cities in blue states. These are places that voted heavily against Trump." It's taking place in 'sanctuary cities' where the Mayors/government specifically said they would not deport people in the US illegally and these just happened to be deep blue. It's happening suddenly because nothing has been done about illegal immigration for years. Every other country deports illegal immigrants, and the US should be no different. Calling it an 'Escalation of cold Civil war' is nuts. Saying this just shows that it was supported all along.

catlover76 2y ago
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johng 2y ago
I agree. Sanctuary cities are dangerous not just to themselves, which to me would be fine... if that's what you want to do, go for it. But it affects the entire country and every one around them. It's amazing to me that people on the left find it perfectly fine to force US citizens to get a vaccination, many going so far as to saying that anyone who refuses should be held down and forcibly injected. For the good of everyone else. But, they also on the other hand refuse to enforce national laws, other laws that can also greatly impact others around them. Criminals being let go on purpose to commit crimes again. There have been people murdered by illegal immigrants that have committed many crimes, caught and released, caught and released multiple times. Do they not feel some responsibility for this? How can on one hand you want to force a COVID vaccination into someone that has been proven can't stop the spread, but you don't want to punish a repeat offender? Nor do they care if immigrants come in without a vaccination, or ever get one. Makes zero sense to me.
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- scarface_74 2y ago
  But you do notice that he isn’t doing the raids in red states that are close to the border that would negatively affect their businesses and economies? > There have been people murdered by illegal immigrants that have committed many crimes Yet he just pardoned 1500 people who invaded government buildings and threatened violence on his own VP…
  - paleotrope 2y ago
    Not many sanctuary cities in the "red" states.
    - scarface_74 2y ago
      Why is being a sanctuary city a necessity for them to have raids? You don’t think any farmers in Texas are using illegal immigrants?
      - slowmovintarget 2y ago
        Because the actions are against convicted violent criminals, with "red notices" as a priority. "Why doesn't Trump deport violent offenders here illegally from Red States?" Because most Red States don't tolerate violent offenders here illegally. Blue states specifically, vociferously, and at great taxpayer expense, do.
        scarface_74 2y ago
        > Because the actions are against convicted violent criminals, with "red notices" as a priority. He raided an entire factory and he had no way of knowing whether they were criminal. Some innocent Puerto Ricans - who are United States citizens - were detained. He wasn’t going after criminals with red notices. In Arizona, native Americans are also being detained by ICE and they are having to prove their citizenship https://azmirror.com/2025/01/24/reports-of-navajo-people-being-detained-in-immigration-sweeps-sparks-concern-from-tribal-leaders/ https://azmirror.com/2025/01/24/reports-of-navajo-people-bei...
    - croes 2y ago
      But many illegal immigrants, but last time the deportations hurt the farmers
    - bediger4000 2y ago
      Where can I find an official list of sanctuary cities? What's the criteria for being on that list? Just so I can figure this out for myself.
- pavel_lishin 2y ago
  You've got a very broad brush in your hand.
- mcphage 2y ago
  > Sanctuary cities are dangerous not just to themselves, which to me would be fine... if that's what you want to do, go for it. But it affects the entire country and every one around them. Actually: sanctuary cities aren’t dangerous, to themselves or to others.
  - readthenotes1 2y ago
    Is that why Martha's vineyard welcomed that busload of illegal immigrants with open arms?
    - bediger4000 2y ago
      Is that the criteria for being a sanctuary city?
    - mcphage 2y ago
      I’d love to hear where you’re going with this, or what the relevance is to the conversation.
- bdangubic 2y ago
  It's amazing to me that people on the left find it perfectly fine to force US citizens to get a vaccination, many going so far as to saying that anyone who refuses should be held down and forcibly injected you mean on the right, right? our new President was President during Covid who locked up us and our children for months and was tauting vaccine development like it was a porn star he was about to fuck while his wife is pregnant. Here’s “leftist” DeSantis with his thoughts, can send you 100 more “leftists” as well in case you really have short memory https://youtu.be/Sq_ccy5rfgI?feature=shared https://youtu.be/Sq_ccy5rfgI?feature=shared “those that don’t know their history are doomed to repeat it…”
croes 2y ago
> Every other country deports illegal immigrants, and the US should be no different. Strange, I hear the same in Europe, every other country deports illegal immigrants, and >>Insert country name<< should be no different.
bdangubic 2y ago
Every other country deports illegal immigrants, and the US should be no different except that US economy relies heavily of on cheap labor of illegal immigrants who pay more in taxes than most americans
- TMWNN 2y ago
  >except that US economy relies heavily of on cheap labor of illegal immigrants who pay more in taxes than most americans By this logic the US ought to import anyone anywhere to enter and work in the US, in endless numbers, without limit, surely causing the US tax revenue to zoom to the sky. Congratulations on inventing the infinite money machine. (The first slaveholders, however many thousands of years ago, also thought that they had invented an infinite resource-production method.)
  - bdangubic 2y ago
    if you did not get the memo people currently running the show in america think that white people are retarted and we need immigrants to come to fill all these positions we can’t find qualified americans (cause you know, we are all retarded). so you are on the right track whats about to be happening… few planes will take off carrying illegal immigrants and you’ll see social media posts about how they are keeping promises (albeit 1% maybe of the promises) while at the same time bringing in 100’s of thousands immigrants to replace you :)
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catlover76 2y ago

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johng 2y ago

I agree. Sanctuary cities are dangerous not just to themselves, which to me would be fine... if that's what you want to do, go for it. But it affects the entire country and every one around them. It's amazing to me that people on the left find it perfectly fine to force US citizens to get a vaccination, many going so far as to saying that anyone who refuses should be held down and forcibly injected. For the good of everyone else. But, they also on the other hand refuse to enforce national laws, other laws that can also greatly impact others around them. Criminals being let go on purpose to commit crimes again. There have been people murdered by illegal immigrants that have committed many crimes, caught and released, caught and released multiple times. Do they not feel some responsibility for this? How can on one hand you want to force a COVID vaccination into someone that has been proven can't stop the spread, but you don't want to punish a repeat offender? Nor do they care if immigrants come in without a vaccination, or ever get one. Makes zero sense to me.

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scarface_74 2y ago
But you do notice that he isn’t doing the raids in red states that are close to the border that would negatively affect their businesses and economies? > There have been people murdered by illegal immigrants that have committed many crimes Yet he just pardoned 1500 people who invaded government buildings and threatened violence on his own VP…
- paleotrope 2y ago
  Not many sanctuary cities in the "red" states.
  - scarface_74 2y ago
    Why is being a sanctuary city a necessity for them to have raids? You don’t think any farmers in Texas are using illegal immigrants?
    - slowmovintarget 2y ago
      Because the actions are against convicted violent criminals, with "red notices" as a priority. "Why doesn't Trump deport violent offenders here illegally from Red States?" Because most Red States don't tolerate violent offenders here illegally. Blue states specifically, vociferously, and at great taxpayer expense, do.
      - scarface_74 2y ago
        > Because the actions are against convicted violent criminals, with "red notices" as a priority. He raided an entire factory and he had no way of knowing whether they were criminal. Some innocent Puerto Ricans - who are United States citizens - were detained. He wasn’t going after criminals with red notices. In Arizona, native Americans are also being detained by ICE and they are having to prove their citizenship https://azmirror.com/2025/01/24/reports-of-navajo-people-being-detained-in-immigration-sweeps-sparks-concern-from-tribal-leaders/ https://azmirror.com/2025/01/24/reports-of-navajo-people-bei...
  - croes 2y ago
    But many illegal immigrants, but last time the deportations hurt the farmers
  - bediger4000 2y ago
    Where can I find an official list of sanctuary cities? What's the criteria for being on that list? Just so I can figure this out for myself.
pavel_lishin 2y ago
You've got a very broad brush in your hand.
mcphage 2y ago
> Sanctuary cities are dangerous not just to themselves, which to me would be fine... if that's what you want to do, go for it. But it affects the entire country and every one around them. Actually: sanctuary cities aren’t dangerous, to themselves or to others.
- readthenotes1 2y ago
  Is that why Martha's vineyard welcomed that busload of illegal immigrants with open arms?
  - bediger4000 2y ago
    Is that the criteria for being a sanctuary city?
  - mcphage 2y ago
    I’d love to hear where you’re going with this, or what the relevance is to the conversation.
bdangubic 2y ago
It's amazing to me that people on the left find it perfectly fine to force US citizens to get a vaccination, many going so far as to saying that anyone who refuses should be held down and forcibly injected you mean on the right, right? our new President was President during Covid who locked up us and our children for months and was tauting vaccine development like it was a porn star he was about to fuck while his wife is pregnant. Here’s “leftist” DeSantis with his thoughts, can send you 100 more “leftists” as well in case you really have short memory https://youtu.be/Sq_ccy5rfgI?feature=shared https://youtu.be/Sq_ccy5rfgI?feature=shared “those that don’t know their history are doomed to repeat it…”

croes 2y ago

> Every other country deports illegal immigrants, and the US should be no different. Strange, I hear the same in Europe, every other country deports illegal immigrants, and >>Insert country name<< should be no different.

bdangubic 2y ago

Every other country deports illegal immigrants, and the US should be no different except that US economy relies heavily of on cheap labor of illegal immigrants who pay more in taxes than most americans

TMWNN 2y ago
>except that US economy relies heavily of on cheap labor of illegal immigrants who pay more in taxes than most americans By this logic the US ought to import anyone anywhere to enter and work in the US, in endless numbers, without limit, surely causing the US tax revenue to zoom to the sky. Congratulations on inventing the infinite money machine. (The first slaveholders, however many thousands of years ago, also thought that they had invented an infinite resource-production method.)
- bdangubic 2y ago
  if you did not get the memo people currently running the show in america think that white people are retarted and we need immigrants to come to fill all these positions we can’t find qualified americans (cause you know, we are all retarded). so you are on the right track whats about to be happening… few planes will take off carrying illegal immigrants and you’ll see social media posts about how they are keeping promises (albeit 1% maybe of the promises) while at the same time bringing in 100’s of thousands immigrants to replace you :)
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