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It's crazy how dysfunctional the state structure can be - in any functioning country the subway would extend to NJ.
by fldskfjdslkfj 2y ago
It's crazy how dysfunctional the state structure can be - in any functioning country the subway would extend to NJ.
- marcinzm 2y agoThe PATH train does exactly that.
- fldskfjdslkfj 2y agothe PATH train is a lousy a replacement. Just look at the connectivity and coverage of NJ vs Queens & Brooklyn: https://stewartmader.com/wp-content/uploads/Subway-NY-NJ-scaled.jpg https://stewartmader.com/wp-content/uploads/Subway-NY-NJ-sca...
- acjohnson55 2y agoThe Jersey side is so sad, for one of the country's most densely populated areas.
- marcinzm 2y agoThat's a separate issue versus trains going to/from NYC. They do.
- gumperbumper 2y agoThe NJ side is definitely sad, but your map is missing NJ transit.
- acjohnson55 2y agoIt would make much more sense for it to be unified with the MTA subway, with more connectivity. My dream would be a single seat ride from Newark Airport to Atlantic Terminal in Brooklyn, via Newark Penn Station and World Trade Center. There was also once a proposal to have the 7 train go out to Seacaucus Junction, which would be huge for accessing the East Side for NJers.
- marcinzm 2y agoI wonder if the real limit is tunnels. Connectivity doesn't fix the issue of physical limits on tunnel capacity and the massive cost of new tunnels.
- acjohnson55 2y agoIf you're talking about underwater, I don't think that's the problem compared to running track through populated areas, whether that's through tunnels, cut-and-cover, at-grade or viaduct.
- balderdash 2y agoIt blows my mind there isn’t the equivalent of the Heathrow express in nyc (even if it was just a regular express train subway)
- ghaff 2y agoIn London, you also have the Piccadilly line depending upon where you're going and how much luggage you have (many of the London tube stations are pretty awful in terms of accessibility as I discovered on a trip where I had heavier luggage than normal last year).
- Symbiote 2y agoSince 2022 there's also the Elizabeth Line, which uses the same tracks as the Heathrow Express, but then continues under Central London and far to the east. It takes 27 rather than 15 minutes to Paddington, but it's also half the price of the Heathrow Express. It's the purple edged line: https://content.tfl.gov.uk/london-rail-and-tube-services-map.pdf https://content.tfl.gov.uk/london-rail-and-tube-services-map...
- ghaff 2y agoRight. But I usually stay near Trafalgar Square and the Piccadilly line is much more convenient for that. (Though I will be taking the Elizabeth line from LHR my next trip because I'm initially going to Shoreditch. And, yes, Heathrow Express is something of a rip-off which the airport steers you towards.)
- SJetKaran 2y agoBig +1, and an obvious observation for anyone who moved here
- marstall 2y agoit does, check out PATH.
- ahstilde 2y agoTransit in NJ is served by PATH, NJ Transit Rail, and NJ Transit Light Rail They share multiple exchanges. Crossing state lines causes regulations to triple (new state, and federal), so this is what we have.
- School-Cotton 2y agoThere is a subway that connects Manhattan and NJ, called the PATH. Unfortunately it’s run by a completely different organization, which I agree is silly.