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I don’t disagree. however, I also think lots of people just don’t know how to negotiate. lots of people is complacent with “company policy, we do X% raise per y

I don’t disagree. however, I also think lots of people just don’t know how to negotiate. lots of people is complacent with “company policy, we do X% raise per year and no more” - however, if you go to your boss and say “hey, my performance is not up to par with my fair market value etc…” I think you’ll be pleasantly surprised what managers can pull with the HR. and if they can’t, that is unlikely a place you should stay

scarface_74 2y ago
First, statistics back me up. https://www.forbes.com/sites/bryanrobinson/2024/11/05/64-of-job-hoppers-say-frequent-moves-boost-career-mobility-and-salary/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/bryanrobinson/2024/11/05/64-of-... Let’s talk about the raises I have gotten from job hopping since 2014. I have been working a lot longer. But if the company could pay me more and thought I was worth more, then why didn’t they offer me that in the first place? 2012 I was working for a then F10 company (GE) after two years of across the board 3% raises, I left for a 25% raise in 2014. The manager couldn’t push for larger raises at GE. The entire team of 15 left within 6 months. Stayed at the next medium size company for 2 years and no raises. Left for another medium sized company for a 20% raise. Stayed there for two years and did a vertical move to get the chance to be on the ground floor when a startup hired a new CTO who wanted to bring all of the development in house and wanted to be “cloud native”. Two and half years later a job at BigTech fell into my lap - a 40% increase in comp. I was at BigTech for 3 years and took a pay cut when I left. But by then, I valued piece of mind and work life balance over money. Within a year of me working at the company, my current employer reached out to me. Pay was the same. But it was more aligned to what I wanted to do, better benefits and most importantly, unlimited PTO and I fully expect to take 30 days off this year. None of the HR departments at any of the companies were going to be willing to go from 4% raises to 20-40% raises.
- bdangubic 2y ago
  I think the way your career fantastically progressed is majority of people - 100%. my career has been the exact opposite of yours :) 17 years at same place then independent contractor last 9. at a place I stayed 17 years my ending compensation was 4.7 times my initial compensation (which was not small, I got my Master’s during dotcom boom). when I left to go solo route I was offered close-to-6-figure bump in salary to stay…

scarface_74 2y ago

First, statistics back me up. https://www.forbes.com/sites/bryanrobinson/2024/11/05/64-of-job-hoppers-say-frequent-moves-boost-career-mobility-and-salary/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/bryanrobinson/2024/11/05/64-of-... Let’s talk about the raises I have gotten from job hopping since 2014. I have been working a lot longer. But if the company could pay me more and thought I was worth more, then why didn’t they offer me that in the first place? 2012 I was working for a then F10 company (GE) after two years of across the board 3% raises, I left for a 25% raise in 2014. The manager couldn’t push for larger raises at GE. The entire team of 15 left within 6 months. Stayed at the next medium size company for 2 years and no raises. Left for another medium sized company for a 20% raise. Stayed there for two years and did a vertical move to get the chance to be on the ground floor when a startup hired a new CTO who wanted to bring all of the development in house and wanted to be “cloud native”. Two and half years later a job at BigTech fell into my lap - a 40% increase in comp. I was at BigTech for 3 years and took a pay cut when I left. But by then, I valued piece of mind and work life balance over money. Within a year of me working at the company, my current employer reached out to me. Pay was the same. But it was more aligned to what I wanted to do, better benefits and most importantly, unlimited PTO and I fully expect to take 30 days off this year. None of the HR departments at any of the companies were going to be willing to go from 4% raises to 20-40% raises.

bdangubic 2y ago
I think the way your career fantastically progressed is majority of people - 100%. my career has been the exact opposite of yours :) 17 years at same place then independent contractor last 9. at a place I stayed 17 years my ending compensation was 4.7 times my initial compensation (which was not small, I got my Master’s during dotcom boom). when I left to go solo route I was offered close-to-6-figure bump in salary to stay…