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I'm consfused. Is this an indefinite or a very temporary thing? The article says the move is part of a roughly 11 day pause in communication (till the first of
by LeroyRaz 2y ago
I'm consfused. Is this an indefinite or a very temporary thing?
The article says the move is part of a roughly 11 day pause in communication (till the first of Feb) but also describes the reviews as "suspended indefinitely"
- guywithahat 2y agoIt should be resumed on Feb 1st. I understand why they’re concerned (everyone wants more money) but from what I can tell this is just grant approvals, and it will resume on the first.
- fallingknife 2y agoWhich will have basically no impact on anything important but everyone here is screaming like the sky is falling
- lightbendover 2y agoPeople will absolutely lose their labs over this, please stop spreading lies either intentionally or from a place of ignorance.
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- lightbendover 2y agoMy industry? My industry is tech, where I got paid 7 figures for years and years doing fuck all to benefit society. It’s pretty telling that you just assumed someone defending a marginalized group was a member of that cohort. Are there improvements that could be made in the grant process? Sure, just like there are improvements that could be made in any process. That is not a justification for taking a sledgehammer to the existing institution and affecting thousands of our brightest and hardest working residents who generally are not in it for godforsaken money but to better society. The ends in your kindergarten example do not justify the means. This is political, it’s not a merit-based cleansing. I’m sure someone such as yourself would never see medical research as a public good so I guess we’re done here. The ideological bridge is too vast and frankly I have lost complete interest in the drivel on the other side.
- guywithahat 2y agoI agree with the other guy, usually funding is dispersed in months or years at a time, so this shouldn't impact anyone in a meaningful way (unless they're doing gain of function research, in which case their lab will likely stop receiving funding).
- esalman 2y agoHave you spoken to any PI, postdoc, or student, or literally anybody in the academia about this?
- lightbendover 2y ago[dead]
- lightbendover 2y agoOh good, it’s just grant proposals so only some people will lose their labs due to the idiotic politicization of the NIH. This pushes back study sections by months even if they do resume on Feb 1. You can’t just schedule x leading researchers to review a grant on a whim, it’s planned months in advance.
- jltsiren 2y agoThe pause itself is temporary. But if a study section is canceled, the next possible date is likely months in the future. Tens of busy professionals from other organizations are probably not willing to drop their other commitments. Especially because the cancellation was your fault, not theirs. If decisions are delayed, funding will also be delayed. And if funding is delayed for months, some projects will be canceled and some people will lose their jobs.