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I don't think it's strictly an English thing, but a spec thing. Companies have been infuriatingly moving away from having a properly designed spec for whatever

I don't think it's strictly an English thing, but a spec thing. Companies have been infuriatingly moving away from having a properly designed spec for whatever system you need to write into adhoc just create a micro service that vaguely fits the bill and move on. So from that perspective it makes sense why companies would rush to replace pesky engineers asking for how something should be written. But they're piling on technical debt AND no one even understands the system! And as you add more technical debt the system context gets larger which means whatever LLM you're using can grab less and less of it. It's madness created by idiots that have no clue what they're doing. I'm glad I'm over the experience hump so when the shit hits the fan and flies into the face of these companies I can demand a premium. But they're going to screw over an entire generation of entry level software engineers along the way.

bentt 2y ago
Yet there will be a subset of that new generation that will be expert at harnessing AI coding tools, so we will be right back where we started… getting pwned by the top kids.
- trod1234 2y ago
  We call this survivorship bias and the foregone conclusion. The inherent assumption precludes the possibility that organized production fails (including food), and with it goes the ability to survive. If exchange becomes impossible because of imbalances created by such tools alongside moneyprinting (which is very likely), then its pretty much over for everyone. All efficient methods of production today depend on brittle non-resilient supply chains. Food production fails back to pre-industrial methods and Malthusian ecological overshoot reversion ensues, (i.e. half the world population dies because there isn't enough food to sustain).
  - bentt 2y ago
    No idea what you are talking about.
    - trod1234 2y ago
      Maybe you should spend some time properly educating yourself on the foundational principles of civilized society, what and how it works, starting with social contract theory. AI fundamentally destroys the foundations of civilized rational society. Couple the chaotic disruption of this with a debt trap caused by runaway money printing and you can easily get cascading failures that cause production failures. Are you familiar with Thomas Malthus? Here's an overview albeit very simple. https://www.resilience.org/stories/2005-03-15/overshoot-nutshell-malthus-was-optimist/ https://www.resilience.org/stories/2005-03-15/overshoot-nuts... Its flawed to assume you and everyone else can continue to follow a business as usual approach anymore. We already reached the limits of growth. There is very little time before a fall.
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trod1234 2y ago
It is madness/chaos, and it will only get worse. You should be aware that there is no experience hump that will make these things safe. I've a decade of direct IT experience at the principal engineer/admin level, and been out of work for two years now; I'm retraining to HVAC installation now since no ones hiring. What I'm doing is what happens to the most competent people when there is no work to be had. Once I'm in HVAC, I may play around on side projects in IT, but I wouldn't subject myself to more torture by being dependent on my IT experience. What happens in IT first, later happens broadly. IT is a labor multiplier for everyone else. When labor value of skilled work hits 0 broadly, everything collapses. If you can't find legitimate positions because they all look legitimate, and you never make it to the interview (1:1000 conversion ratio), it won't matter how much you know or how much direct experience you have. I'm seriously looking at securing off-grid food options, and the necessary people/skills to ensure it can't be stolen. Non-reserve debt issuance and money printing will continue driving this trend until food production collapses, then half the global population starves. Its the problem with positive feedback systems. They runaway, and cascade towards failures.

bentt 2y ago

Yet there will be a subset of that new generation that will be expert at harnessing AI coding tools, so we will be right back where we started… getting pwned by the top kids.

trod1234 2y ago
We call this survivorship bias and the foregone conclusion. The inherent assumption precludes the possibility that organized production fails (including food), and with it goes the ability to survive. If exchange becomes impossible because of imbalances created by such tools alongside moneyprinting (which is very likely), then its pretty much over for everyone. All efficient methods of production today depend on brittle non-resilient supply chains. Food production fails back to pre-industrial methods and Malthusian ecological overshoot reversion ensues, (i.e. half the world population dies because there isn't enough food to sustain).
- bentt 2y ago
  No idea what you are talking about.
  - trod1234 2y ago
    Maybe you should spend some time properly educating yourself on the foundational principles of civilized society, what and how it works, starting with social contract theory. AI fundamentally destroys the foundations of civilized rational society. Couple the chaotic disruption of this with a debt trap caused by runaway money printing and you can easily get cascading failures that cause production failures. Are you familiar with Thomas Malthus? Here's an overview albeit very simple. https://www.resilience.org/stories/2005-03-15/overshoot-nutshell-malthus-was-optimist/ https://www.resilience.org/stories/2005-03-15/overshoot-nuts... Its flawed to assume you and everyone else can continue to follow a business as usual approach anymore. We already reached the limits of growth. There is very little time before a fall.

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trod1234 2y ago

It is madness/chaos, and it will only get worse. You should be aware that there is no experience hump that will make these things safe. I've a decade of direct IT experience at the principal engineer/admin level, and been out of work for two years now; I'm retraining to HVAC installation now since no ones hiring. What I'm doing is what happens to the most competent people when there is no work to be had. Once I'm in HVAC, I may play around on side projects in IT, but I wouldn't subject myself to more torture by being dependent on my IT experience. What happens in IT first, later happens broadly. IT is a labor multiplier for everyone else. When labor value of skilled work hits 0 broadly, everything collapses. If you can't find legitimate positions because they all look legitimate, and you never make it to the interview (1:1000 conversion ratio), it won't matter how much you know or how much direct experience you have. I'm seriously looking at securing off-grid food options, and the necessary people/skills to ensure it can't be stolen. Non-reserve debt issuance and money printing will continue driving this trend until food production collapses, then half the global population starves. Its the problem with positive feedback systems. They runaway, and cascade towards failures.