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>Google recently announced that its Nexus Q streaming media player would be made in the U.S., and this put pressure on Apple to start following suit. So Tim Co
by mcantelon 14y ago
>Google recently announced that its Nexus Q streaming media player would be made in the U.S., and this put pressure on Apple to start following suit.
So Tim Cook announces Apple's intention to do this at the end of May, and this is somehow "following suit" when Google hadn't even announced the Nexus Q yet (June 27)?
>We can only guess. Autodesk CEO Carl Bass says that just as we have created new, higher-paying jobs in every other industrial transition, we will create a new set of industries and professions in this one.
What are average humans capable of that robots aren't?
- ajross 14y agoMy memory is that Apple announced a "desire" to do more manufacturing in the US. Google announced an actual product that will be built there. Not really the same thing. Someone correct me if Apple is actually sourcing anything other than semiconductors from the US for a planned product. The whole "where is it built" thing is dumb, though. But still, if you're going to take afront, this doesn't seem like the right spot.
- mcantelon 14y agoI'm just pointing out an inaccuracy, not making a claim to Apple's greater virtue: the article asserts Apple is being influenced in May by something announced in June (unless one is to assume Apple got an insider tip).
- ajross 14y agoI think you're reading too far. The assertion is pretty straightforward: an Android device built in the US puts pressure on Apple to do the same. And the sentence links to a story about Apple wanting to build in the US but not being able to do so. I don't see an assertion of causality. They just looked for an opportunity to link to another Forbes story, saw a relevant one, and threw it in. The author may not have even written the link in the original.
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- reitzensteinm 14y agoInterestingly, just last year, Steve Jobs told Obama "Those jobs aren't coming back". http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/22/business/apple-america-and-a-squeezed-middle-class.html?pagewanted=all http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/22/business/apple-america-and...
- jfoutz 14y agoThose jobs aren't. There might be cool new manufacturing design jobs. Anything repetitive will, inevitably, be automated away.
- mcantelon 14y agoManufacturing design jobs are for average humans, unfortunately. Until something replaces the jobs lost that are suitable for average humans, there will likely be a risk of political instability (which is likely one of the reasons why the US has been heavily investing in domestic counter-insurgence infrastructure over the last decade).
- Qworg 14y agoAverage humans are capable of fine manipulation and fast visual recognition at low prices.
- nnnnni 14y agoRobots are capable of ridiculously fast visual recognition for considerably longer stretches of time than humans.
- Qworg 14y agoFor simple tasks. Identifying thousands of different products by sight alone in infinite numbers of configurations at varying light levels/obstruction? Humans are best.
- malandrew 14y agoTrue, but I think Qworg was instead suggesting that humans are good where the confidence/accuracy of robots drops off. Machine learning tasks usually get to 70% good enough pretty quickly, but after that each percent gain costs more and more. There's a point where humans can complement robots when the robots are not yet good enough to solve the problem.
- ori_b 14y agoAverage humans outside the US are capable of the same fine manipulation and fast visual recognition at far lower prices.