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Blue sky supports federation, and X is selectively censored by the top level of the US executive branch. How do you define “free”?

by hedora 2y ago

immibis 2y ago
In practice, Bluesky is a fully centralized system. You can run your own server to feed posts into the single centralized system.
- mayneack 2y ago
  The moderation is mostly federated. You can choose which lists to subscribe to to mute/block/label as you see fit.
  - immibis 2y ago
    I created a parody Donald Trump account as an experiment. It was deleted for "impersonation". Are you saying if I had run it on my own PDS, other people would get to choose whether it was deleted for them or not?
    - mayneack 2y ago
      I obviously can't speak to your specific situation. As I understand it, both X and bluesky require parodies to be labeled. From what I can tell, most content moderation on bluesky is done via labelers, which you need a pds to run, but not to use. Both X and bluesky have semi-automated moderation processes with an inherent false positive rate. The two high profile cases I'm aware of (Jessie Singal and Laura Loomer) that were suspended automatically eventually got turned back on once a human was involved. https://bsky.app/profile/jessesingal.com https://bsky.app/profile/jessesingal.com https://bsky.app/profile/loomered.bsky.social/post/3lemtdvls7k2n https://bsky.app/profile/loomered.bsky.social/post/3lemtdvls...
      - immibis 2y ago
        No, they sent an email to the account's email address saying it had been deleted, and they deleted it.
- verdverm 2y ago
  You can also choose your own moderation, algorithmic feeds, and frontend The API is open and free too, making it much easier to build on the network. The system is designed so that we can design new record types and create all sorts of applications on ATProto. It's going to go well beyond just a Twitter clone and each app shares the same social fabric, instead of having to attract their own, which is going to accelerate the network effect Is it perfectly federated, no, there are weak points that will be made less weak with time. It's not a reason to put it down

Blue sky supports federation, and X is selectively censored by the top level of the US executive branch. How do you define “free”?

by hedora 2y ago

Blue sky supports federation, and X is selectively censored by the top level of the US executive branch. How do you define “free”?

immibis 2y ago

In practice, Bluesky is a fully centralized system. You can run your own server to feed posts into the single centralized system.

mayneack 2y ago
The moderation is mostly federated. You can choose which lists to subscribe to to mute/block/label as you see fit.
- immibis 2y ago
  I created a parody Donald Trump account as an experiment. It was deleted for "impersonation". Are you saying if I had run it on my own PDS, other people would get to choose whether it was deleted for them or not?
  - mayneack 2y ago
    I obviously can't speak to your specific situation. As I understand it, both X and bluesky require parodies to be labeled. From what I can tell, most content moderation on bluesky is done via labelers, which you need a pds to run, but not to use. Both X and bluesky have semi-automated moderation processes with an inherent false positive rate. The two high profile cases I'm aware of (Jessie Singal and Laura Loomer) that were suspended automatically eventually got turned back on once a human was involved. https://bsky.app/profile/jessesingal.com https://bsky.app/profile/jessesingal.com https://bsky.app/profile/loomered.bsky.social/post/3lemtdvls7k2n https://bsky.app/profile/loomered.bsky.social/post/3lemtdvls...
    - immibis 2y ago
      No, they sent an email to the account's email address saying it had been deleted, and they deleted it.
verdverm 2y ago
You can also choose your own moderation, algorithmic feeds, and frontend The API is open and free too, making it much easier to build on the network. The system is designed so that we can design new record types and create all sorts of applications on ATProto. It's going to go well beyond just a Twitter clone and each app shares the same social fabric, instead of having to attract their own, which is going to accelerate the network effect Is it perfectly federated, no, there are weak points that will be made less weak with time. It's not a reason to put it down