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Sadly, the situation is not yet in the past tense and is in progress. Yoon was impeached and impeachment is being litigated in the Constitutional Court. Yoon is

Sadly, the situation is not yet in the past tense and is in progress. Yoon was impeached and impeachment is being litigated in the Constitutional Court. Yoon is arguing some ridiculous excuses which would have been funny if this was not serious. For example, martial law decree no. 1 said "Activities of national assembly, local assemblies, political parties, and all political activities such as political association, assembly, demonstration are hereby forbidden". Decree was widely published and it is a strong evidence that Yoon intended to violate the constitution and disable the legislative branch. Yoon is now claiming "it was copy and pasted from old authoritarian martial law decrees by mistake". No, really. It doesn't make any sense by itself, but moreover, this can't possibly be the case because South Korean local rule was introduced after democratic transition so no mention of "local assemblies" is possible in old decrees. I mean, lying is pretty difficult, reality has surprising details...

bamboozled 2y ago
Yoon is arguing some ridiculous excuses which would have been funny if this was not serious. Sounds like a standard "democratic leader" these days.
- sanxiyn 2y ago
  Is anyone else claiming to have made copy and paste error in, say, executive orders?
  - winternewt 2y ago
    [flagged]
    - beAbU 2y ago
      The only people that I see that are actually blaming it on autism are those that are sky high from smoking copium. Musk himself is pretty overtly affirming what he did, with his nazi name puns and other tweets.
      - pjc50 2y ago
        I see the ADL had to issue another statement condemning one of his tweets after they defended his salute.
        rightbyte 2y ago
        I never though I would see the day when ADL backed down from condemning a "salute".
      - rayiner 2y ago
        [flagged]
  - pjc50 2y ago
    I'm reminded of https://www.forbes.com/sites/ljkelly/2017/07/18/how-fontgate-could-bring-down-the-pakistani-government/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/ljkelly/2017/07/18/how-fontgate...
    - sanxiyn 2y ago
      This is golden. Thank you so much.
  - ipython 2y ago
    There's some accusations along those lines: https://futurism.com/trump-admin-accused-ai-executive-orders https://futurism.com/trump-admin-accused-ai-executive-orders. It wouldn't be too far fetched to assume that rushing to release these so quickly may have involved some shortcuts resulting in typos and a lack of polish.
robertlagrant 2y ago
Mistakenly pasting in martial law is surely grounds for impeachment in its own right. Ignorance of what law you're passing is not an excuse.
- kijin 2y ago
  Sufficiently advanced incompetence surely is indistinguishable from malice.
  - dartos 2y ago
    Don’t attribute to malice what could also be attributed to incompetence In this case, seems pretty clear cut though.
- potato3732842 2y ago
  > Ignorance of what law you're passing is not an excuse Pretty much every elected legislature ever uses this excuse and gets away with it again and again and again at each election cycle. They will fight tooth and nail to prevent a precedent to the tune of "it's your job to know" even if the precedent is against the executive because even that is too close for comfort.
  - lesuorac 2y ago
    Clearly he should've just added a disclaimer like ever single one of Trump's EOs [1]. "Sec. 4. General Provisions. (a) Nothing in this order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect: (i) the authority granted by law to an executive department or agency, or the head thereof; or" [2] Or all the generic legal documents that say "void where prohibited by law" and etc. In general, writing a document that complies with the law seems to be not a requirement. [1]: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_executive_orders_in_the_second_presidency_of_Donald_Trump https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_executive_orders_in_... [2]: https://web.archive.org/web/20250121003847/https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/initial-rescissions-of-harmful-executive-orders-and-actions/ https://web.archive.org/web/20250121003847/https://www.white...
alephnerd 2y ago
He's an Ajussi - wouldn't be surprised he can't use Word /s The sheer contempt the older generation of Korean politicians have to democratic norms is disheartening but sadly not surprising. While all countries show hallmarks of gerontocracy, I feel it's much more stark in South Korea given how rapidly SK shifted from developing to developed. Hopefully the younger generation of Koreans can finally take the mantle of power, but I'm pessimistic about it - at best it'd be scions from monied families that have done well since the Park era if not all the way to the Japanese era.

bamboozled 2y ago

Yoon is arguing some ridiculous excuses which would have been funny if this was not serious. Sounds like a standard "democratic leader" these days.

sanxiyn 2y ago
Is anyone else claiming to have made copy and paste error in, say, executive orders?
- winternewt 2y ago
  [flagged]
  - beAbU 2y ago
    The only people that I see that are actually blaming it on autism are those that are sky high from smoking copium. Musk himself is pretty overtly affirming what he did, with his nazi name puns and other tweets.
    - pjc50 2y ago
      I see the ADL had to issue another statement condemning one of his tweets after they defended his salute.
      - rightbyte 2y ago
        I never though I would see the day when ADL backed down from condemning a "salute".
    - rayiner 2y ago
      [flagged]
- pjc50 2y ago
  I'm reminded of https://www.forbes.com/sites/ljkelly/2017/07/18/how-fontgate-could-bring-down-the-pakistani-government/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/ljkelly/2017/07/18/how-fontgate...
  - sanxiyn 2y ago
    This is golden. Thank you so much.
- ipython 2y ago
  There's some accusations along those lines: https://futurism.com/trump-admin-accused-ai-executive-orders https://futurism.com/trump-admin-accused-ai-executive-orders. It wouldn't be too far fetched to assume that rushing to release these so quickly may have involved some shortcuts resulting in typos and a lack of polish.

robertlagrant 2y ago

Mistakenly pasting in martial law is surely grounds for impeachment in its own right. Ignorance of what law you're passing is not an excuse.

kijin 2y ago
Sufficiently advanced incompetence surely is indistinguishable from malice.
- dartos 2y ago
  Don’t attribute to malice what could also be attributed to incompetence In this case, seems pretty clear cut though.
potato3732842 2y ago
> Ignorance of what law you're passing is not an excuse Pretty much every elected legislature ever uses this excuse and gets away with it again and again and again at each election cycle. They will fight tooth and nail to prevent a precedent to the tune of "it's your job to know" even if the precedent is against the executive because even that is too close for comfort.
- lesuorac 2y ago
  Clearly he should've just added a disclaimer like ever single one of Trump's EOs [1]. "Sec. 4. General Provisions. (a) Nothing in this order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect: (i) the authority granted by law to an executive department or agency, or the head thereof; or" [2] Or all the generic legal documents that say "void where prohibited by law" and etc. In general, writing a document that complies with the law seems to be not a requirement. [1]: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_executive_orders_in_the_second_presidency_of_Donald_Trump https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_executive_orders_in_... [2]: https://web.archive.org/web/20250121003847/https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/initial-rescissions-of-harmful-executive-orders-and-actions/ https://web.archive.org/web/20250121003847/https://www.white...

alephnerd 2y ago

He's an Ajussi - wouldn't be surprised he can't use Word /s The sheer contempt the older generation of Korean politicians have to democratic norms is disheartening but sadly not surprising. While all countries show hallmarks of gerontocracy, I feel it's much more stark in South Korea given how rapidly SK shifted from developing to developed. Hopefully the younger generation of Koreans can finally take the mantle of power, but I'm pessimistic about it - at best it'd be scions from monied families that have done well since the Park era if not all the way to the Japanese era.