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This is interesting. I think I did not entirely understand OPs problem, but we are going more and more in a direction where we try to come up with things how to

This is interesting. I think I did not entirely understand OPs problem, but we are going more and more in a direction where we try to come up with things how to "program" LLMs, because human language is not sufficient enough. (Atleast I thought) the goal was to make things simple and "just" ask your question to an LLM and get the answer, but normal language does not work for complex tasks. Especially in programming it is fun. People spent hours over hours to come up with a prompt that can (kinda-of) reliably produce code. So they try to hack/program some weird black box so that they can do their actual programming tasks. On some areas there might be a speed up, but I still don't know if it's worth it. It feels like we are creating more problems than solutions

flessner 2y ago
I feel the same way about programming, but there are plenty of people that don't enjoy it. I recently was chatting with my friend that wanted to automate one of his tasks by writing a python script with AI -> because all the influencers said it was "so easy" and "no programming knowledge" required. That might have been the single funniest piece of code I have seen in a long time. Didn't install the dependencies, didn't fill in the Twitter API key, instead of searching for a keyword on Twitter it just looked up 3 random accounts, 25 functions on like 120 lines of code? Also, the line numbers in the errors weren't helpful because the whole thing lived in Windows notepad. That was a flagship AI and a (in my opinion) capable human not being able to assemble a simple script.
- PaulHoule 2y ago
  If you have some idea of what good code looks like you can sometimes give feedback to something like Cursor or Windsurf. For small greenfield projects (that kind of downloader script) they succeed maybe 50% of the time. If you had no idea of what code looks like and poor critical thinking abilities God help you.

flessner 2y ago

I feel the same way about programming, but there are plenty of people that don't enjoy it. I recently was chatting with my friend that wanted to automate one of his tasks by writing a python script with AI -> because all the influencers said it was "so easy" and "no programming knowledge" required. That might have been the single funniest piece of code I have seen in a long time. Didn't install the dependencies, didn't fill in the Twitter API key, instead of searching for a keyword on Twitter it just looked up 3 random accounts, 25 functions on like 120 lines of code? Also, the line numbers in the errors weren't helpful because the whole thing lived in Windows notepad. That was a flagship AI and a (in my opinion) capable human not being able to assemble a simple script.

PaulHoule 2y ago
If you have some idea of what good code looks like you can sometimes give feedback to something like Cursor or Windsurf. For small greenfield projects (that kind of downloader script) they succeed maybe 50% of the time. If you had no idea of what code looks like and poor critical thinking abilities God help you.